The Gate

Yes, thoughts come from nowhere too.

I have a very short attention span, that's why my investigations are short.

Ok Bartek, if "will" and thoughts come from nowhere, what is controlling them ?

When you investigate this could you also look into the point when the investigation ends. In other words what happens at the end of the concentration span. Why does it "finish" ?

Hi Bartek
Have you had a chance to look at this yet ?
Let me know what comes up

If there is a feeling of confusion, discomfort and/or no room for maneuver then just notice this and report back. It is likely a sign of progress. I experienced this when i was going through the process.

You don't need to force anything, just try it and see what comes up

Ok Bartek, if "will" and thoughts come from nowhere, what is controlling them ?

I am created from the thoughts, the controller is created after the thinking and is 'taking over' the thinking.
The thought thinks it thinks.

When you investigate this could you also look into the point when the investigation ends. In other words what happens at the end of the concentration span. Why does it "finish" ?

It's because our thoughts are fluent. Awareness fluently swims from one brothel of thoughts to another, forgetting that it decided to be focused on one thing. The decision was just another thought, which was flushed away in the stream of consciousness. There is no clear end of thought, just like there is no specific point in which green changes to yellow on this picture http://emptyeasel.com/wp-content/upload ... ectrum.jpg

Hi Bartek
Have you had a chance to look at this yet ?
Let me know what comes up

If there is a feeling of confusion, discomfort and/or no room for maneuver then just notice this and report back. It is likely a sign of progress. I experienced this when i was going through the process.

You don't need to force anything, just try it and see what comes up

Sorry I wasn't answering, I was just demotivated.
This 'sign of progress' you're talking about is present everday in my reality :)

Hi Bartek
Have you had a chance to look at this yet ?
Let me know what comes up

If there is a feeling of confusion, discomfort and/or no room for maneuver then just notice this and report back. It is likely a sign of progress. I experienced this when i was going through the process.

You don't need to force anything, just try it and see what comes up

Sorry I wasn't answering, I was just demotivated.
This 'sign of progress' you're talking about is present everday in my reality :)

OK Bartek, then this is what we need to focus on. What happens when you embrace the feelings of confusion and discomfort in the body ? What happens when you open your heart to them ? Amongst other things you will rediscover your motivation here. Move into the sensations. Welcome them. Describe your experience.

Suprisingly I've done that about an hour before your post.
When I 'welcome' my sensations I feel weakness, sadness and compassion towards myself.
It seems to be one of my new ways to letting go of my buried emotions.

Do you notice thoughts when you welcome sensations ?

Sometimes there are no specific thoughts, only feelings, but most of the time memories are popping up, like places or events associated with particular feeling.

Can YOU think and choose a thought?

Can a thought think ?

no & no

What is experiencing the thoughts and feelings ?

does the body experience sensations and thought?
or
is the "body" just another thought label added to sensations that appear ?

"I" might be seriously ill, now I'm much more motivated to 'transcend the ego'.

I'm still here, I'm inside my thoughts and in my nerves, I am the nervous system, I exist only in the brain and nerves.

Who want's to discuss?

Hi Bartek
I am sorry to hear that

The mind is like a labeling machine. It labels our experience with thoughts. Yes ?

So in experience what can be found ?
What is seen, smelled, tasted, heard, sensation, thoughts. Can you find anything else ?

Richard