Re: Need guidance to Peace and Clarity
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:20 pm
If there are no more doubts, and you have seen through the illusion of separation... Are you ready for the final questions?
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YES!If there are no more doubts, and you have seen through the illusion of separation... Are you ready for the final questions?
Here is not seen a permanent, solid, separate "me". Here is only LOOKING. But somehow mysteriously HERE solidifies a "me" that responds to happenings and behaves quit normal. But then dissolves back into JUST LOOKING.1) Is there a 'me' or 'you' or 'I' , at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever? Will there ever be?
Reference is made to LOOKING.1.5) When you say "I", what in Experience are you referring to?
When the body-mind flux of memories, feelings, opinions, information, at a young age, is believed to be real and solid2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works.
A great relief! Like keeping your fist real tight for a long time and the opening the fist and relaxing your palm.3) How does it FEEL to see this? describe in detail.
I would refer them to the LU website. Having so recently myself been introduced to this Direct Looking and just been thru the initial hurdles that were not easy. But I would probably talk about the Directness, Experiental and Effectiveness of this Process.4) How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about this illusion but is curious about it.
For me it was not gradual. After I started the working with you all of sudden and could not touch any other book or listen to any other teaching, my mind became "numb" or "silent". Something seemed to be working behind the scene. Suddenly early this week there was a SHIFT. Something changed on a deep level. The balloon "poped" and the separation was seen thru.5) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look? was there a specific moment when seeing happened or was it gradual? what exactly happened?
Before the seeing life was struggle, seeking and an endless pushing towards goals. Now there is REST, THRUST and PEACE.6) describe the difference before seeing, at the moment of seeing, and after seeing? describe the key difference?
The greatest insight and relief is that this not my life and it will not impact my life. This is LIFE and that is enough!!!7) in what ways has thing changed your life? what impact will this have on your life?
I would respond with a roaring laugh that would shake the universe :)8) what if i told you LU was a persuasion cult and we have just got you to believe that "there is no self". How would you respond?
I am very happy with your guiding. And in the beginning when you did not answer my request for guidance I got really impatience and a little bit upset, which was good.9) do you have any comments about my guiding, what you feel was effective, and what was not so effective, and why?
Nothing solidifies. "Bjorn" just happens. "Walking" just happens. Being "employee at work" just happens.For 1) is there an Actual Real "me" that solidifies and behaves?
The relief of not being the "drop of water" trying to find the "ocean". The great relief that there is just the "ocean" and the drop never was separate from THIS.For 4) describe this in your own words based on your experience and your excitement :)