Hy, italy is calling for help

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Cam-RT » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:19 am

Good Evening Alberto...
The "i" thought. I know that it has to disappear and it does, when i try to look behind it. But in some way i continue to believe it.
The point probably is to see that it is only a thought and not a reality. The body shows me that i still believe, i still identify myself with that.
Looking and looking will drive me to this dis-identification?
You're doing GREAT! Alberto keep it up!, you're getting there!

When you fully SEE the illusion and understand to your Core; You will get the Relief you seek :^)
Your whole life you've dwelled within this delusion, you need to fight your way out!

TEAR IT DOWN! TAKE NO PRISONERS!!!...This is YOUR life! Take it back!

"YOU" are simply NOT your thoughts!
The illusion isn't destroyed...Just seen for what it 'Is'
Thoughts vs. Reality----->Reality always wins.
"Have courage...Don't give up!!"

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Nuxer » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:12 am

I need some help.
Trying to look behind the "I" thought i see nothing, knowing that it is right. Feeling the void, body in peace (well... More relaxed ;-))
The I seem disappearing when looking. But i am not feeling something particular, not knowing what to do or to wait. Thinking some thought is hiding somewhere, may be is the observer waiting for something instead of observation. Some hints will be well accepted.
I feel good, depression left place to some calm quiet living.
The only thing that is missing is ... Some truth experienced. Something certain that change everything.
Thankful Nux.

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Cam-RT » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:50 pm

Hello Alberto!...

It seems like you are doing better,"The Work" appears to be doing you Good! I'm glad you're keeping up the good Work!! :^)
The I seem disappearing when looking. But i am not feeling something particular, not knowing what to do or to wait. Thinking some thought is hiding somewhere, may be is the observer waiting for something instead of observation.
Ya, these thoughts are like phantoms, coming and going...Are you feeling a twinge or tightening when this is happening?... How is it that you become aware of these??
It sounds like you're playing cat and mouse with these remaining connection's...

Remember once, you've fully seen this illusion they will still pop in and out...The mind is seductive and will draw you in.
Staying in touch with these feelings even after liberation is a must, until it becomes a habit to check "In Real Time"...

Even now I'll catch myself getting caught up in drama and thought, and take that "mental step back" and take a look and shake my head thinking "There I go getting sucked in again!" then you put things back into perspective and move on... :^) It's knowing the difference that keeps all the crap from "snowballing".

Unlike eastern spirituality, we are not looking to destroy the ego and thought, just see it for what it is "illusion"...

Do you have any other questions for me?

OR

Do you think you're ready to be confirmed??
The illusion isn't destroyed...Just seen for what it 'Is'
Thoughts vs. Reality----->Reality always wins.
"Have courage...Don't give up!!"

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Nuxer » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:35 pm

What you mean for "ready to be confirmed?"

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Nuxer » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:36 pm

What is a confirmation?

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Cam-RT » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:40 am

Hey Alberto...

Confirmation is where I ask you 5 or so questions and you answer them honestly, and elbaborate on your answers...
Then I ask the other guides to take a look and see if you're done...
The illusion isn't destroyed...Just seen for what it 'Is'
Thoughts vs. Reality----->Reality always wins.
"Have courage...Don't give up!!"

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Nuxer » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:02 am

Ah, okay.
Didn't know about that.
That's the way you do.
Well, to be honest i don't think "it" hit me yet, but this night I had a dream where my wife was upsetting me and I remember clearly that I was thinking, while dreaming, "Cool... let me see where this connection lead... There is no such reason to be upset".
The work is working also when i am dreaming; maybe I only have to understand "that" and accept the reality of it. It has to be a simple truth that in some ways i look only for short periods of time. It become longer day by day, i will concentrate in the tranquility, the simplicity i learned from our conversation.
Let me take some days to go deeper with the work and then Saturday or Sunday or Monday (when you want) send me the questions. I don't want to rush. I want to enjoy every moment and allow this beauty to remain quietly in me for some days before a new label (to deal with) may arrive. I will answer honestly.
Let's see.
Ok?

Thank you for all this road made togheter.

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Cam-RT » Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:14 pm

Hello Alberto...

Sounds good! Just reply when you're ready or shoot a question over and I'll be happy to help! :^)
I'm glad that you're finding peace....

Take Care....
The illusion isn't destroyed...Just seen for what it 'Is'
Thoughts vs. Reality----->Reality always wins.
"Have courage...Don't give up!!"

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Nuxer » Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:52 am

Today... Strange experience... Feeling like everything was flowing on his own. Feeling like... The stage of life? Everything within became exxxxtremely silent and then a little switch tried to turn on... Just for a little nano second but left a trace... Deep silent active observation...
Just wanna let you know...

Keeping going

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Cam-RT » Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:56 am

Hey Alberto...
Today... Strange experience... Feeling like everything was flowing on his own. Feeling like... The stage of life?
Yes! Life just unfolds before us is like letting go of the steering wheel of a car and life does the rest...From there we just go with the flow...Perfectly imperfect. If it feels good GO FOR IT!

Everything in the the mind is there for reference and wisdom...The rest is just thought, seeing the difference makes a HUGE Difference. It all boils down to in reality is perception, without the "Vail" of thought clouding your view, everything seems so clear...
and then a little switch tried to turn on...
Ya, it will from time to time. Feelings and emotions pop up, that's when you look at what's there, and they subside...
The illusion isn't destroyed...Just seen for what it 'Is'
Thoughts vs. Reality----->Reality always wins.
"Have courage...Don't give up!!"

http://cam-rt.blogspot.com

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Nuxer » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:56 am

Hy cam.
Ok, I' m ready for confirmation. Send me questions when you want.
Bye nux

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Cam-RT » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:51 am

Hello Alberto!

Now take your time and Please read over these questions and elaborate as much as possible in your answers...

1) Is there a 'me' , at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of self is, when it starts and how it works.

3) How does it feel to see this?

4) How would you liberate someone who has never encountered this " No-You" concept before?

5) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you really look?
The illusion isn't destroyed...Just seen for what it 'Is'
Thoughts vs. Reality----->Reality always wins.
"Have courage...Don't give up!!"

http://cam-rt.blogspot.com

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Re: Hy, italy is calling for help

Postby Nuxer » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:07 pm

1) No. I was only believing it. Somwhere i read "like santa claus". That's it.

2) The illusion of self is a thought. No, better, it is a belief that perpetuates itself by jumping from a thought to another. It starts in childhood when the speech of mind is built and when outside conditioning do its job.

3) I feel free, more relaxed.

4) I will help him/her to see the inconsistency of thoughts. And then i will ask "what about the I"?

5) Reading back the thread and notice that I've never answer a question. Which was the source thought... The "I" thought. Something i believed but i have never seen. Just Like Santa. And then... Weaponless i surrender to this fact. There was a lie in the I. I choose not to belive it anymore.

6) and now? The fun begins. What is this life in the present? How it is unfolding? I started looking and wondering about this life, like a spectacular various pictures going on... Don't know where it is going or from what it it coming... Doesn't matter. It's here and life is living itself from here.

Bye and tnx


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