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Re: Support needed
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:43 pm
by ImMadeofDragons
No dreamer I cannot. It is my ego.
And where is your ego? Is it in your body? Is it a part of you? Which part? What is it?
YOU REALLY ANNOY ME WHEN IM TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD AND THIS IS A BIG DEAL AND YOU CANT READ MY RESPONCE CORRECTLY
Re: Support needed
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:11 pm
by Nick
Rob,
Asking questions and probing deeper and deeper is our "technique" here. You have had some cool insights and experiences, what we're trying to do is help you understand it, see it more clearly. It can help to have other people question you, to keep you honest so you don't fool yourself.
And, to be honest, your answers to Eloratea's questions are not 100% clear or consistent with the understanding of No-Self that the rest of us here have enjoyed. Our goal is to help you see No-Self 100%. We plan on questioning you and picking your answers apart, until we're satisfied that you have.
That's what we want. Please let us know what exactly it is you want from us.
Re: Support needed
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:18 pm
by dreamer
Ok I will stop replying.
Before I leave I must tell you though that ego is also in awareness, as is everything.
Hope you get what you are looking for from someone else.
Re: Support needed
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:23 pm
by ImMadeofDragons
Rob,
Asking questions and probing deeper and deeper is our "technique" here. You have had some cool insights and experiences, what we're trying to do is help you understand it, see it more clearly. It can help to have other people question you, to keep you honest so you don't fool yourself.
And, to be honest, your answers to Eloratea's questions are not 100% clear or consistent with the understanding of No-Self that the rest of us here have enjoyed. Our goal is to help you see No-Self 100%. We plan on questioning you and picking your answers apart, until we're satisfied that you have.
That's what we want. Please let us know what exactly it is you want from us.
Im looking for help furthering my understanding of the no-self as well as techniques to manage and control it because it will not be just a click o wow all my anxieties thoughts and worries fly away. As nice as that may be its just not possible.
Im not getting the deeper vibe from these questions but Do want to continue. Sorry for the rudeness but I cant handle the language barrier and the fact he cant understand my answers. please probe away
Re: Support needed
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:29 pm
by ImMadeofDragons
Rob,
Let's come to direct experience here, right now. That's the place where reality should be, right?
Can you point to your self? Where are you exactly right now? Not your body, your self?
Are you in your body or body is in you?
Look at your hand. Are you in it, or it is in you?
Sounds you are hearing right now. Are they inside or outside of you?
And thoughts you are having - are you in them? Or they are as everything else in this space, awareness; here, right now?
Yes.
no
this moment.
this moment.
I am in my body.
I am in it.
inside.
I dont know.
Re: Support needed
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:46 pm
by Nick
Cool.
Ok, your answers to El's questions are a little inconsistent from last time. Specifically some confusion about whether you are inside your body, whereas previously you said "I am my body". Also confusion as to whether hearing is inside or outside. So this seems like a good place to look closer. Let's just go step by step so we're all on the same page.
Your body- what is the boundary? Is it the skin? If you start removing parts, at what point is a severed limb no longer "yours"? If you are inside your body or if you ARE your body, what will happen when it dies? What was there before birth?
Hearing- when you're hearing a sound like traffic or birds or whatever, can you separate the sorce of the sound, the "hearing", and the hearer? Take a look and see if you can define the boundaries between these 3 things.
Re: Support needed
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:26 am
by ImMadeofDragons
My ego is mostly in control of me atm which is what happens on weed. I need tactics and logical true things... maybe the answer to some of these questions. It is as if you are Screaming though a mine shaft with 2 arguing owners...
Dinamite is what im looking for. Im planning to take shrooms with a friend and better realize it but these questions are hard to use as corrosive ego material. Mine has tortured me many times on drugs so do not say its not a real thing it is. I just need to see how unreal it is, i guess i just am dieing for more direct help.............