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Yes.Ali, when you take your hat or (sun)glasses off, sometimes there is the sensation that they are still on. Have you had that experience ?It belongs to thought, but it feels to be well intertwined with reality.
I just keep feeling it.How do you react to the sensation when you know that it's just a residual sensation ?
No.But you know that it's just sensation. You dont go out in the sun thinking that you are protected, do you?
You recognise it for an illusion, right ?
Yes
Isn't sensations that have been generated by believing in the story of self the same thing ?
Except the sensations come from a belief in a self.
Aren't thoughts of Self the same thing ?
Yes, they come from the belief in a self thinking them.
It's all conditioned reflexes, right ?
I suppose so.
...and if the self is a story, then the sensations come from a belief in a story of self.the sensations come from a belief in a self
No.Are you protecting something, a self ?
The self only happens in thoughts and feelings, so I suppose they could be ideas that seem real.Is it a real something, or just ideas that seem real ?
Experience.If you remove belief in your self, what remains ?
If you take away one of the sense organs in the body or plug up nose/ears/etc. then it can't be experienced, so I suppose they are separate.Is an experiencer separate from the experiencing ?
The human being.Who or what is experiencing ?
It is happening in the human being.Ok, let me put it a different way. You are experiencing now, where is the experiencing happening ?
Sounds good. What time?Willing to do flash chat, but probably can't get to it before about Tuesday.
Define the 'human being'.It is happening in the human being.
What time zone are you in. i am +10gmt (Sydney time)Sounds good. What time?
A person; man, woman, or child.Define the 'human being'.
GMT - 7What time zone are you in. i am +10gmt (Sydney time)
A person, a man, a woman, a child are all sub-categories of homo sapien. Let's get away from dictionary definitions and get to real mind/body organisms.vinceschubert wrote:Define the 'human being'.
Ali said; A person; man, woman, or child.