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Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:17 am
by Luchana
Hi Asheshjain,
there seems to be responsibility of earning and helping family, earning for food ,for payment of fees of children.
May be that happening itself.
Yes. The problem here is that you are indentifing with the body + story about person.
But you are not something small as imagined person which lives in the body.
Personality - this is identification with the body.
Now you have permission :) to identify yourself with oneness. And you will start notice the evidences.
During the walking, tea making...there is personality in the body wich makes things happen or this is you oneness appear as walking, tea making...? Can you find a person? is there anything wich is not oneness?
Notice what realisation "no separate me" points: Separate me will become Oneness or you/Oneness realise that you are not an entity?
Love
Luchana
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:17 pm
by Asheshjain
Hello mam
Q--During the walking, tea making...there is personality in the body wich makes things happen or this is you oneness appear as walking, tea making...? Can you find a person? is there anything wich is not oneness?
A-- now i can look that there is only one - something,no solid me,but thought and concepts and desires arises and vanishes,
Personal image arises but it's not real(empty).
Reality(oneness) is so subtle,that it's like something vivid happening.
Q--Notice what realisation "no separate me" points: Separate me will become Oneness or you/Oneness realise that you are not an entity?
A-- there is no real me,it's concept only, something - is prior to person, which is always present?
Now can see that me is an idea only.
But everything is oneness.
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:22 am
by Luchana
Hi
Now can see that me is an idea only.
Yes, wonderful.
Notice that we (oneness) are playing this role? We are identifying with the body exactly how they tought us, we make a strategy to survive with crying in order to receive attention, love and care.
Notice this narrative voice - isn't it as a role of small boy which resist his own desires , creates problem in order to show others the he need attention, care and love?
Notice that you no longer needing this role, don't need this strategy to survive?
Spend time to investigate narrative and to find the strategy of living and surviving?
Love
Luchana
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:24 pm
by Asheshjain
Hello mam
Q--Notice that you no longer needing this role, don't need this strategy to survive?
Spend time to investigate narrative and to find the strategy of living and surviving?
A- it's understandable that life is mostly stories and narratives
But this is an understanding.sometimes it's clearly seen,but not always.narratives are so sticky that it seems very real,and difficult to deal with.
So clearly saying is- it's seen sometimes only.
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:17 pm
by Luchana
Hi,
it's understandable that life is mostly stories and narratives
What if narrative and stories are only thoughts, very small part of life?
Notice - life decides what to do or thoughts decide?
Who is the boss?
You are life or you are something independent from life?
Is there you IN life?
Thoughts sugest that you are independent and you have a life, but is it true?
Can you point something wich is not life but a self wich rules life?
Thoughts rules self or thoughts are servants to life and cannot rule life?
Love
Luchana
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:02 am
by Asheshjain
Hello mam
Q--Notice - life decides what to do or thoughts decide?
Who is the boss?
A- life is a flow,but can't point it,if you want to say something about life it becomes narratives.thougts are also life.there is just life which includes everything even thoughts also.
Q-- You are life or you are something independent from life?
Is there you IN life
A--yes there is only life
Q-Thoughts sugest that you are independent and you have a life, but is it true?
A- thoughts are "me" so not real.thoughts creates "me" so that's wrong.but thoughts are empty.
Q-Can you point something wich is not life but a self wich rules life?
Thoughts rules self or thoughts are servants to life and cannot rule life?
A- thoughts creates confusion of me.
When seen through - everything is like a game.
It's seen thats there is something life or aliveness and there are stories about life conveyed by empty thoughts.wchich creates this play.
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:34 am
by Luchana
Nice ;-)
It's seen thats there is something life or aliveness and there are stories about life conveyed by empty thoughts.wchich creates this play.
Explore next few days - who is moving trough life, who is doing the actions, notice how thougths are labeling all the actions and reactions suggesting that it is "me".
But is that TRUE at experience?
Take your time
Much love,
Luchana
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2022 12:48 pm
by Asheshjain
Hello mam
Q--Explore next few days - who is moving trough life, who is doing the actions, notice how thougths are labeling all the actions and reactions suggesting that it is "me".
But is that TRUE at experience?
A--
Yes I m exploring it-- and found there is no separation between body and surrounding - only one beingness.
Thoughts arises and creates stories.
But it's difficult to remain untouched by stories,though many a times it's fun to know about stories and remain unattached to stories.
At physical level it's very clear that everything is beingness,
But sometimes desires creates a sense of me- like this is my desire.
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:58 am
by Luchana
Hi,
But it's difficult to remain untouched by stories,though many a times it's fun to know about stories and remain unattached to stories.
At physical level it's very clear that everything is beingness,
But sometimes desires creates a sense of me- like this is my desire.
Is there an expectation that remaining untouched by stories must or should be happening 24/7?
The truth is reliable, it's. always here when it is looked at.
Even now at this very moment when you look
Is there a separate entity with desires?
Or there is desire only?
Much love,
Luchana
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:41 pm
by Asheshjain
Hello mam
Q--is there an expectation that remaining untouched by stories must or should be happening 24/7?
The truth is reliable, it's. always here when it is looked at.
Even now at this very moment when you look
Is there a separate entity with desires?
Or there is desire only?
A- whenever it's seen that there is only one energy,no me-than everything appears like a play and no attachment happens,so there is this expectations.
-- Desires arises spontaneously no me.
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:59 pm
by Luchana
Hi and Happy New Year!
Sorry for delay in replying.
Whenever it's seen that there is only one energy,no me-than everything appears like a play and no attachment happens,so there is this expectations.
Nice to see the expectation itself.
-- Desires arises spontaneously no me.
So Is there a "me", self, someone or something separate out of a thought about a "me", self, someone or something separate somewhere to be found?
Was there ever?
Much love,
Luchana
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:58 pm
by Asheshjain
Hello mam
Happy new year
Q-so Is there a "me", self, someone or something separate out of a thought about a "me", self, someone or something separate somewhere to be found?
A- there is no separate me - but is is an understanding or realisation - not sure
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:26 am
by Luchana
Hi,
A- there is no separate me - but is is an understanding or realisation - not sure
How the doubt (not sure) itself is experience?
As WHAT it is coming?
As a real sound, image, smell, taste, sensation?
Who or what is not sure?
Much love,
Luchana
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:42 pm
by Asheshjain
Hello mam.
Confused about something, mostly intellectual and mental noice creates doubts,
It's all experience and experience are empty.
I don't know what is the problem?
Re: I'm not separate
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:08 am
by Luchana
Hi,
Confused about something, mostly intellectual and mental noice creates doubts,
It's all experience and experience are empty.
I don't know what is the problem?
Good to see you back :-)
Yes, all experiences are empty,
What is experiencing all of that?
Is there an experiencER?
And really - what is the problem? :-)
Do you see any problem here?
Sending love,
Luchana