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Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:14 pm
by Hopefulness
Hi again,
I have put in the request. Sorry I couldn't get you what you are looking for. Good luck.
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:08 pm
by Govinda
Hi again,
You have come to non-dual guidance in the hope it will fix ordinary psychological problems such as chronic depression, anxiety, and whatever else is going on. Non-dual guidance does NOT fix this. If your idea of enlightenment is the relief of these symptoms then that expectation will never happen. You should seek professional help.
Maybe you want to seek professional help. I am here for liberation as I told several times already.
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:17 pm
by Govinda
Is there a self in any shape or form in reality? -I. C.
Hi again,
I have put in the request. Sorry I couldn't get you what you are looking for. Good luck.
ok.
Is there a self in any shape or form in reality? -I. C.
No. Just boundless freedom. Eternal life.
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:28 pm
by Govinda
Is there an inside and outside? I.C.
No. undivided life only.
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:40 pm
by Govinda
where do you end and where does the world begin? L.U.
no. beginning and no end. just This.
Can you find a line that divides
here from there? L.U.
no. just boundless, unknowable, unspeakable mystery.
n reality, is anything ever separate? L.U.
no. One unknown Mystery only.
Is there anything there at all but life as a whole? L.U.
Wholeness only
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:11 pm
by Govinda
where do you end and where does the world begin? L.U.
All one.
In perception, is there a perceiver? L.U.
just perception
Does life belong to a “me”?L.U.
boundless life without owner.
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:12 pm
by Govinda
Looking for guide.
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:48 pm
by Govinda
Requesting a guide!
Do you exist as a separate self? L.U.
Dont think so.
What is the “I” made of? L.U.
Nothing. Emptiness
Where is the division
between awareness and appearances? L.U.
No division
Is there a gap between the perceiver of thoughts thoughts and thinking or is there just
one process that we call thinking? LU
One appearance, undivided.
In perception, is there a perceiver? LU
No. All one. one only. not two.
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 10:59 am
by Govinda
can you find a line between the body and what is outside the body? LU
all one
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:15 pm
by Govinda
where do you end and where does the world begin? L.U.
doesnt.
Is there anything there at all but life as a whole? L.U.
no
Is there an inside and outside? LU
no
in reality, is anything ever separate? L.U.
no
Can you find a line that divides here from there? L.U.
no
Where is the division between awareness and appearances? L.U.
no
Is there a gap between the perceiver of thoughts thoughts and thinking or is there just
one process that we call thinking? LU
one
can you find a line between the body and what is outside the body? LU
no
It seems quite obvious that there is just this without subject nor object. the stream of life running through.
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 12:30 pm
by Govinda
where do you end and where does the world begin? L.U.
no beginning, no end.
Is there anything there at all but life as a whole? L.U.
no
Is there an inside and outside? LU
no
in reality, is anything ever separate? L.U.
no
Can you find a line that divides here from there? L.U.
no
Where is the division between awareness and appearances? L.U.
not existent
Is there a gap between the perceiver of thoughts thoughts and thinking or is there just
one process that we call thinking? LU
no
can you find a line between the body and what is outside the body? LU
no
Is there anything there at all but life as a whole? L.U.
no
In thinking, is there a thinker? LU
no
In perception, is there a perceiver? LU
no
In choosing, is there a chooser? LU
no
. In looking, is there a looker? LU
no
In witnessing, is there a witness? LU
no
In experience, is there an experiencer? LU
no
Can a thought get lost in thought? LU
no
Can a thought think? LU
no
Can a thought feel? Can a thought become liberated? LU
no. no.
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:30 pm
by Govinda
where do you end and where does the world begin? L.U.
no beginning, no end.
Is there anything there at all but life as a whole? L.U.
no
Is there an inside and outside? LU
no
in reality, is anything ever separate? L.U.
no
Can you find a line that divides here from there? L.U.
no
Where is the division between awareness and appearances? L.U.
not existent
Is there a gap between the perceiver of thoughts thoughts and thinking or is there just one process that we call thinking? LU
no
can you find a line between the body and what is outside the body? LU
no
Is there anything there at all but life as a whole? L.U.
no
In thinking, is there a thinker? LU
no
In perception, is there a perceiver? LU
no
In choosing, is there a chooser? LU
no
In looking, is there a looker? LU
no
In witnessing, is there a witness? LU
no
In experience, is there an experiencer? LU
no
Can a thought get lost in thought? LU
no
Can a thought think? LU
no
Can a thought feel? LU
no
Can a thought become liberated?
no
Does life belong to a “me”? L.U.
no
What is the “I” made of? L.U.
Nothing real
Do you exist as a separate self? L.U.
no
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:44 am
by Govinda
Is there a self in any shape or form in reality? -I. C.
can`t find.
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:59 pm
by vinceschubert
Hey Govinda, vince here. i'll walk with you for a bit.
Are you familiar with the Fetter model?
If not, look it up and tell me what Fetters are broken.
vince
Re: Way of Suffering
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:05 am
by Govinda
Hey Govinda, vince here. i'll walk with you for a bit.
Are you familiar with the Fetter model?
If not, look it up and tell me what Fetters are broken.
vince
Hi, nice to meet you.
Guess none of the fetters I found are broken.