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Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:38 pm
by sophie1
No need for "me" to conduct life
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:21 pm
by MerlinC
because what are thoughts?
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:41 am
by sophie1
mental sensations
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:09 am
by MerlinC
doing?
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:11 pm
by sophie1
Coming and going, appearing and disappearing
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:13 am
by MerlinC
but what are they doing?
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:40 am
by sophie1
Labeling things
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:38 am
by MerlinC
and can a label do anything other than label?
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:09 pm
by sophie1
No
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:43 pm
by MerlinC
this is an interesting video which deals with free will that might help clarify any belief in a you that controls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6S9OidmNZM
but its important not to just accept what's said and to see whats real here and now this just raises questions to our assumptions.
Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there
ever?
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:36 am
by sophie1
thanks for the video, it's hard to see what is real if unconscious processes are involved like in the movie. I see myself making a complex decision by weighting pros and cons, analyzing situation, using intuition. There are probably unconscious processes involved, but they are hard to see.
There is no separate entity "me" except for an illusion that appears in thoughts.
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:40 am
by MerlinC
how do you think?
can you stop thinking?
how long can you stop thinking for?
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:18 pm
by sophie1
I can stop thinking for a couple of minutes. If I observe thoughts, I see them come and go.
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:39 pm
by MerlinC
when don't you observe thoughts come and go?
and who chooses to stop them?
Re: eyes wide shut? lets open them
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:57 pm
by sophie1
When I don't observe them, they are a constant noise in my head. It's hard to say who chooses to stop them. First, there is an idea to stop them. Last time it the idea came from you. Then there is an impulse to do it. Then there is an effort to do it. And then it happens. The thoughts stop. It's quiet. I can't find the doer. It just happens.