I'm not separate

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:22 pm

Hi,
You did a very good looking.

I want to invite you to change the topic a little bit.
Till now we looked at what is this and you found that everything happens by itself.
But now notice what is here, what topic is important for you, for thoughts and sensations, what is this that is not good enough and should deal with it?

Be honest with yourself, meet everything which protective mechanisms say "Don't go there"

What is there really?


Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:54 pm

Hello mam
Good day.
Q-But now notice what is here, what topic is important for you, for thoughts and sensations, what is this that is not good enough and should deal with it?

Be honest with yourself, meet everything which protective mechanisms say "Don't go there"

What is there really?
A- as far as I understand by this question is- what is hidden problem or issues in mind,
So there are two issues

1- recurrent desire for earning fat money arise( at present i m earning good enough) but feel that I am not earning as I should - though i agree that there is no limit of desires,

2- even when I understand that there is nothing to do,
everything is that - than there start boring, too much thoughts appears,and out of that sexual thoughts/fantasy take over.old sexual image appears in mind.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:00 pm

In addition to that
3- anxiety for future arises like how the work will be finished,for example i have little accident today,now i have to put car in garage,ask insurance agent to look after etc.

Kindly read all three real problems i mentioned.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:41 am

Hi Asheshjain,
Do you prefer to call you like this or?
Thank you for the deepest and honest reply.
I appreciate that you show your vulnerability.
1- recurrent desire for earning fat money arise( at present i m earning good enough) but feel that I am not earning as I should - though i agree that there is no limit of desires,
Notice this "should" voice - it is like a parent wich is never satisfied from the son.
Notice that there is an enjoying earn money but this "should" voice make this enjoyment anxiety.

Notice do you need this "should" voice? Do you make more money because of it?,
Notice can you live life without this artificial authority to advise you?
Find right now what is to live life without it?

If you see that you no need it anymore - ask your powerful friend anger.
"My dear anger, are there chains you can't break?
Which is stronger, you or this voice? "
What is the answer of the anger?
2- even when I understand that there is nothing to do,
everything is that - than there start boring, too much thoughts appears, and out of that sexual thoughts/fantasy take over.old sexual image appears in mind.
Notice that nonduality means everything is one. Notice is there a story that sexuality is not oneness?
And the story that Eros is not welcome here.
Is this part of oneness ashamed?
3- anxiety for future arises like how the work will be finished...
Yes, there is a part in us which appears as little boy. Hug this little boy, say to it "O my little boy, don't worry, I am here for you, I take care about you. This not your responsibility how to deal with life. No need to worry about feature. Now you are under my protection, no one will hurt you"
Notice that the helicopter "life" does not need to be moved by the fears of the boy, but by your desires with pleasure and joy.

Much love
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:17 pm

Hello mam
You can call me by any name,
Q-Notice this "should" voice - it is like a parent wich is never satisfied from the son.
Notice that there is an enjoying earn money but this "should" voice make this enjoyment anxiety.
A- should create problems but it's a thought.
Q-Notice do you need this "should" voice? Do you make more money because of it?,
Notice can you live life without this artificial authority to advise you?
Find right now what is to live life without it?
A- should is a thought,and thoughts arise spontaneously,so nothing can be done.
Q-if you see that you no need it anymore - ask your powerful friend anger.
"My dear anger, are there chains you can't break?
Which is stronger, you or this voice? "
What is the answer of the anger?
A- don't know,bc me is nothing more than thought.anger appears sometimes
Q-Notice that nonduality means everything is one. Notice is there a story that sexuality is not oneness?
And the story that Eros is not welcome here.
Is this part of oneness ashamed?
A-- sexuality is also energy,but in fantasy there is me .
Q---Yes, there is a part in us which appears as little boy. Hug this little boy, say to it "O my little boy, don't worry, I am here for you, I take care about you. This not your responsibility how to deal with life. No need to worry about feature. Now you are under my protection, no one will hurt you"
Notice that the helicopter "life" does not need to be moved by the fears of the boy, but by your desires with pleasure and joy.
A- who tell to whom?

By the way my mother age 81 expired 3 days before.
As she was suffering a lot in last few months,now she is no more for more suffering.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:55 am

Hi dear Asheshjain,
By the way my mother age 81 expired 3 days before.
As she was suffering a lot in last few months,now she is no more for more suffering.
So sorry for your lost.

Let's look at these ones:
should create problems but it's a thought.
should is a thought, and thoughts arise spontaneously, so nothing can be done.
Yes, there is a lot to do :)
So, this "should" voice is just a thought that is coming by itself, yes. But that this voice makes problem is not true. How something that doesn't exist like a content of a thought can make problems?
Just meet this should voice and notice that there is no authority there?
This is just believe that this voice knows anything.
How experience can know something?
Does this question have meaning even?
What sound knows?
What colour knows?
What thought knows?
Notice that it is just a story that thoughts have a meaning?
sexuality is also energy, but in fantasy there is me .
So, thoughts that brings erotic images:
- you are these thoughts?
- do you make them?
- or there is just desire to such experience to appear and it appears?
- do you make experiences?
- what do you make to create experience called thought?
Are you responsible for anything that appear by itself?
Where is a self in all these ?

Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:49 am

Hello mam
Q-So, this "should" voice is just a thought that is coming by itself, yes. But that this voice makes problem is not true. How something that doesn't exist like a content of a thought can make problems?
Just meet this should voice and notice that there is no authority there?
This is just believe that this voice knows anything.
How experience can know something?
Does this question have meaning even?
What sound knows?
What colour knows?
What thought knows?
Notice that it is just a story that thoughts have a meaning?
A- --i deeply feel that thoughts creates problems,like a thought of future creates anxiety,and anxiety give unpleasant sensations.
Thoughts of painful events may create anger or sorrow.
Here should thoughts give anxiety.
Yes experience knows nothing.
Q-- ,so thoughts that brings erotic images:
- you are these thoughts?
- do you make them?
- or there is just desire to such experience to appear and it appears?
- do you make experiences?
- what do you make to create experience called thought?
Are you responsible for anything that appear by itself?
Where is a self in all these ?
A--yes that's spontaneously happening.
But there is a pattern developed -- which avoid pain and like pleasure.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:01 pm

Hi Asheshjain,

Let's clear here:
-i deeply feel that thoughts creates problems,like a thought of future creates anxiety,and anxiety give unpleasant sensations.
Thoughts of painful events may create anger or sorrow.
Here should thoughts give anxiety.
Thoughts are not our enemy.
Please meet thoughts about tomorrow and ask "My dear thoughts, why you are bring this message about tomorrow, do you want to hurt me or?"
and notice the answer?
Do the same with anxiety, meet it and ask why is it coming, what is the message?

Notice also do the thoughts about soup create anger or sorrow?
Notice the thoughts for soup and about tomorow are diferent thoughts? or they are one and the same thoughts but topic is different?
Why there is a fear about future?
What is the story?

Much love
Lubo
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:53 pm

Hello mam
-*-*-*
There are pure sensations of seeing hearing etc.and there are things which is seen.but things are conceptual-imaginary, imagination created by thoughts.so there is reality of sensations and unreality of concepts - imaginations.thoughts creates imagination and stories and this way , stories of life and people and world goes on.even thoughts are empty they are capable of creating sensations,like thoughts of icecream creates pleasant sensations, thoughts of devil creates fearful sensations.but looking through the thoughts give insight - that thoughts are empty and useless.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:25 am

Hi Asheshjain,


What about this thought "I am this image which is imagined?"

If you stop pay attention to this image, what are you?



Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:34 pm

Hello mam
Q--What about this thought "I am this image which is imagined?"

If you stop pay attention to this image, what are you?
A- yes if that happens, final realisation occur.
It's similar to don't identify with imaginary "me ".
But involuntarily attention goes there.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:42 am

Hi Asheshjain,

You didn't look but share thoughts about question.
Q--What about this thought "I am this image which is imagined?"
If you stop pay attention to this image, what are you?
A- yes if that happens, final realisation occur.
It's similar to don't identify with imaginary "me ".
But involuntarily attention goes there.
Question is a finger where to look!
So, without "if I look" just look - Are you this imagined image "I am this"?
YES or No?

Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:57 am

Hello mam
Q--
Question is a finger where to look!
So, without "if I look" just look - Are you this imagined image "I am this"?
YES or No?
A--
Looking to this - there is no real "I am".
There is "this" and in "this" thoughts and memories comes.
"I am" is seen as bundle of thoughts,image.without real content in them.
Reality is "this" as it is.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:53 pm

Ok. Nice.

Now notice who or what is walking?
You are the truth which believe that it is a person or there is a person?
Is there separate persons or everrything/one is the truth itself?
Who or what makes decisions or there is only truth's free will?
Are there responsibilities? What is responsible for what?


Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:33 am

Hello mam
Q--
Now notice who or what is walking?
A--
Yes walking - movement happens.without driver
Q--
You are the truth which believe that it is a person or there is a person?
A-- i don't find anything which can be considered as truth.
Q-- is there separate persons or everrything/one is the truth itself?
A- what is truth i don't know.there is everything, don't know that it's one .
Q-Who or what makes decisions or there is only truth's free will?
A- decision made by thoughts - spontaneously.
Q-- Are there responsibilities? What is responsible for what?
A- there seems to be responsibility of earning and helping family, earning for food ,for payment of fees of children.
May be that happening itself.

Sometimes i feel i m there( realisation).
But sometimes feel ,i will never get it.


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