requesting a guide

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So I can't have liberation and chase thoughts. Thank you again.

[fgrimberg]

The decision is always the same, that's what makes this possible. Yin or yang, love or fear, thought or chaos. I can't chase thoughts and have liberation, and since you can't have thoughts and liberation, since my fears are for naught, there can never be a problem.

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right?

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or am I still missing something?

[fgrimberg]

And now that I know what it feels like when I'm about to chase a thought, it can't have any more power over me.

[fgrimberg]

There's another thing: I noticed last night that for a few minutes I was watching a movie out of thought, with my whole body so to speak. But then it "went away." I made the assumption that it's just natural, that I have no control over it, and that it came as a result of making the right decision. That the decision is always simple, no matter what. Is this true?

[fgrimberg]

And I'm noticing over and over that I'm not chasing thoughts any more. And activities, such as me typing right now, have become much easier. Simpler. I was rolling a cigarette this morning and I felt free, like there was no self in it, and it reminded me of Russia, something very holy. I saw it from a different perspective. Not from above, like I wanted to say, but almost from a feeling. It's impossible to describe.

[fgrimberg]

"Freedom is not chasing thoughts" That should be the slogan for the new enlightened community.

[fgrimberg]

Last, what is the purpose of chasing your thoughts? Is it for the excitement? The drama? Is it so you can see yourself as a victim of others' actions? What do you get when your thinking runs wild?

A sense of self.

[fgrimberg]

Some possibilities come to mind. First, pay attention to your thoughts. When you notice one arise, question it: Is it true? Can you absolutely know it's true? What happens, how do you react when you believe that thought? What would you be without the thought? Can you find evidence for the opposite of the thought?

Thank you SO much nona. Thank you Thank you Thankyou. Now that I know my thoughts aren't true, let's see what happens.

[fgrimberg]

Well, I can tell you right away that everything looks different.

[nonaparry]

Hi Felix

What do you get when your thinking runs wild?

Excitement.

Good to notice!

I can't chase thoughts and have liberation, and since you can't have thoughts and liberation
right? or am I still missing something?

Um. You can't chase thoughts and have liberation, it's true. But you can have thoughts and liberation! Thoughts arise; they are not in our control. They arise, float around, and pass by. Chasing them obscures what is happening in reality.

I noticed last night that for a few minutes I was watching a movie out of thought, with my whole body so to speak. But then it "went away." I made the assumption that it's just natural, that I have no control over it, and that it came as a result of making the right decision. That the decision is always simple, no matter what. Is this true?

"that it came as a result of making the right decision"? Really? You had some control over how this happened? Or did the movie just "go away" by itself?

And I'm noticing over and over that I'm not chasing thoughts any more. And activities, such as me typing right now, have become much easier. Simpler.

Good!

What do you get when your thinking runs wild?

A sense of self.

Is that something you desire?

Now that I know my thoughts aren't true, let's see what happens.
Well, I can tell you right away that everything looks different.

Tell me. How do things look different? How did it look before compared to how it looks now?

love,
Nona

[fgrimberg]

Um. You can't chase thoughts and have liberation, it's true. But you can have thoughts and liberation! Thoughts arise; they are not in our control. They arise, float around, and pass by. Chasing them obscures what is happening in reality.

I just noticed that

"that it came as a result of making the right decision"? Really? You had some control over how this happened? Or did the movie just "go away" by itself?

Nevermind. I worded that question wrong. I wasn't watching a movie out of thought, I was watching an actual movie. And then I started watching it with my whole body. Or rather, I became present. But no, I didn't have any control over how this happened and there wasn't a decision being made. Mind mind was just tricking me into believing that it had made a decision, when actually none of that happened. Good to notice!

What do you get when your thinking runs wild?

a sense of self.

Is that something you desire?

Not really.

Tell me. How do things look different? How did it look before compared to how it looks now?

Well, things stopped looking different about an hour after I wrote that last post, but everything is much simpler now that I know some thoughts aren't true. OK, now that I know a lot of thoughts aren't true. Ok, all of them. The content is imaginary. I've been having a very peaceful day so far. When I got up and started to pack up my shit, I didn't worry about it. It was just something that happens on its own. Same thing when I got a cup of coffee. And so on and so forth. I was walking down the street and everything looked silent. I know that's a contradiction but I can't really say it 'felt' silent. But it was very peaceful. I still start to think every now and again but then I consider the temptation of what I'm thinking about and go "nah, I don't actually want that."

Life is living itself, and all I have to do is become aware of sounds and sense perceptions to stay grounded in the now. I used to complicate things by thinking about all the things that need to be done in order to make this happen, like a ritual, until I realized yesterday how much simpler it is. Nothing needs to be done.

Love,
Felix

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Oh and I forgot to mention how wonderful simplicity is. Life does every thing forme. I want to mention 'Ah, simplicity!'

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