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Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:04 am
by Bananafish
Please inquire further.

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:21 pm
by Statum
Please inquire further.
I have noticed that language is the way that time and thought is expressed. The words used are tied to emotions and desires. Also, since the language is shared with other people, my thoughts are their thoughts. Someone can say table and everyone in the room has the same thought. Language is how thoughts are controlled.

I say all that to say this, what I wanted in inquiry was understanding. Understanding of reality, God, the self, etc. But to understand is through language. Language uses sound to create thought. Thought, language, understanding, and control are all conspiring to form the illusion of life as I know it. Life outside of language is entirely unknown.

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:34 am
by Bananafish
Yes, that perfectly makes sense, but I'd rather you not make sense but inquire into the moving "hand."

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:39 pm
by Statum
Yes, that perfectly makes sense, but I'd rather you not make sense but inquire into the moving "hand."
You’re right, thank you for bringing me back to direct experience. As I look at the moving hand, it moves its own movements. It can stop or start at anytime. My mind gets lost in thought, but the hand still moves.

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:55 am
by Bananafish
My mind gets lost in thought, but the hand still moves.

What is it that's moving the hands?

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:12 pm
by Statum
What is it that's moving the hands?
I don’t find anything attached to the hand that moves it.

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 10:53 am
by Bananafish
My question wasn't "what is attached to the hand that moves it?"
It was "What is it that's moving the hands?"

Please inquire again.

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:02 pm
by Statum
My question wasn't "what is attached to the hand that moves it?"
It was "What is it that's moving the hands?"

Please inquire again.
Nothing is moving them. They are just moving

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 11:25 am
by Bananafish
Nothing is moving them. They are just moving

That's one of the ideas. Please inquire further.

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 3:18 pm
by Statum
That's one of the ideas. Please inquire further.
Without knowing what else to say, I would just say that moving is happening.

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:20 am
by Bananafish
Is it "moving" that's happening?

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:35 pm
by Statum
Is it "moving" that's happening?
It’s happening that is happening. Movement and happening mean the same thing.

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:54 am
by Bananafish
Is it happening?

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:35 pm
by Statum
Is it happening?
I don’t know how to respond to that question other than to say yes.

Re: Pre-Awakening

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:49 am
by Bananafish
Please inquire further on the question, and let's see what comes up.