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Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:50 pm
by pop
Find the knower
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:29 pm
by pop
Hi Hendrik
How are you doing?
What's happening these days?
Are you feeling free or are you identified with a separate self?
Hope you're well either way
Love
Pop
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:24 pm
by Hendrik
Dear Pop,
the task "find the knower" was the right one - still there is identification ... even though it lessens.
The last days I "did" inqiry even more.
Love
Hendrik
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:24 am
by Hendrik
Dear Pop,
thank you for your patience.
... some more inquiry happend...
So there is knowing and sensations that "suggest" something like a knower.
A knower cannot be found inside the body. There is no part of the body where a knower lives. And there is no part outside the body where a knower lives.
The sensations of "the knower" are seen/perceived from a "place" that is different from "where" the sensations are - so even they are known.
I always thought that the feelings of a knower etc. have to have vanished to see that there is no me. This thought is perceived as well.
So sensations happen and are seen/known - but I cannot find a me doing that.
Much Love
Hendrik
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:08 pm
by pop
Hi Hendrik
Nice to hear from you
The sensations of "the knower" are seen/perceived from a "place"
Ok now look at this place. Find it in your direct experience.
Look backwards at it, poetically speaking.
What is it? Where is it?
🙏
Pop
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:59 pm
by Hendrik
Hi Pop,
hm.... this thing "space" does not really exist. There is no location from where seeing happens. Seeing happens for sure but I cannot find a place or space.
There is no really idea how I can "look backwards" (pure mind talking in my head...): when I try to "look backwards" or better: just do it - there is nothing or a blackness.
Yesterday morning there was a short moment when I (?) "surrendered" all perception and there was briefly a blackness in that nothing was.
Love
Hendrik
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:21 am
by Hendrik
Dear Pop,
... it is everywhere and nowhere ...
Love Hendrik
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:26 am
by pop
Hi!
OK. Go outside and watch everything moving about....
Is there a notice separate from the noticing?
Don't go to thought for the answer. Look at your immediate experience and tell me.
Love
Pop
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:32 pm
by Hendrik
Hi Pop,
noticing makes the noticed / notice happen. Noticing happens automatically.
I cannot find a separation. It happens spontaneously.
It is a being in which everything is noticed.
Love
Hendrik
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:56 pm
by Hendrik
... so "allowing" to happen what happens or doesn´t happen opens the "door" into freedom and just being?
... and all the energies that the character traits are made of are reactive patterns popping up/occuring in this being that is here. This being is not personal.
Love Hendrik
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:02 pm
by pop
Hi!
noticing makes the noticed / notice happen....
in this being that is here. This being is not personal.
So there is some separation?
Love
Pop
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:21 pm
by Hendrik
Hi Pop,
hm.... there is no demarcation in the seeing that would separate.
Love
Hendrik
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:06 am
by pop
Hi Hendrik
There is no "I'.
Is this true. Do you see this?
Love
Pop
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:08 am
by Hendrik
Dear Pop,
a happy, fulfilled, healthy and blessed year to you.
Some days were spent on La Palma - nice and warm. That time was used for inquiry too, which is done on a daily basis, or better: every moment if possible.
So I see: there is no I in the meaning of a self.
- "I" is a word. The word does not constitute a self.
- pictures of a body don´t do as well.
- the different sensations to be felt have no self as well.
A sense of "I" is still there. When looked at it it is just made of sensations. The sensations do not constitute a self. Behind them is nothing.
Presence as well is perceived. That what perceives it has no own qualities - at least I cannot find some.
There was an expectation that "everything" has to change or I have to feel "lighter" or whatever. That all are thoughts being perceived while they rise and subside. What is left is space.
I cannot tell wheather I am "there" - because that is a thought too.
There is more "here-ness".
Love
Hendrik
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:56 pm
by Hendrik
Dear Pop,
hope you are well. You did not respond to the last post. Maybe you think, I lost interest - there still is :-)
By chance I came accross the page "headless.org". This again turned something.
So there is nobody doing the seing. Seing happens.
Love
Hendrik