The Gate

on page 11 you write:

Thoughts arise.

Good evening Michael!

Recalling thoughts which have been thought are always, happening.

Yes, are there a YOU doing it?

When someone is watching you do something, you are aware/thinking about being watched, this has an effect on your performance.Think about it? Thinking happens all the time.

Yes, if you believe you are the one doing stuff. Are you?

Individuals all think the same, feel the same, just different degrees of thought filled emotions.

How on Earth do you know? This is something you assume! You can not know that you think and feel the same as others. What you answer here is what you believe, NOT what you have experienced in direct experience (looking behind thoughts, believes, assumptions)

Some dwell on negative thoughts longer than others. Some are comfortable day dreaming "thinking" about holidays, tomorrow, yesterday, presently I am thinking about what I write.

Really! How do you know how long time others dwell on negative thoughts? You can not know. You can assume from what you hear from what they say. You can not know!

So you are thinking about what to write...How can you think what to write when thoughts arise with no one thinking them?

Thinking and others are SO here in the here of now. This is how it seems to the "me" Michael

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Right. This is how is seems. That is not what I ask you to look at. I ask you to look at what you can KNOW!

You would "think" by now, after all the pointing that`s been pointed to, I ought to have grasped this by now?

Would I? How do you know?

How do you watch a thought? Thought arises out of stimulation of one of the sense organs. Also yes they appear from nowhere and these are the profoundest sometimes.Rare yet available as they are noticed.

Here again you say that thoughts arises out of nowhere - Please make up your mind - are you talking from DE or from assumptions?

When my wife and children, inform me of their feelings, I can easily know them, because I go over board,sensitivity, is to have a sense more intent than they do. I believe, which is why we are all happy;) I think

Yes. You believe you think. I ask you to look!

Loving them is what I do best, respecting them and looking out for them, is so important.

YOU do not love them. You do not exist! Love is there.

Letting go and being one, appears wrong for some apparent reason?

Exactly what I suspected! What is holding you back from seeing there is no I. Are you afraid of loosing the family. Are you afraid that you will stop loving them? That they will stop loving you?

Yet why do I search for such oneness, when I think I`v already got it?

You do not search. Search is happening.

If the want of seeing there are no I, really, really, really feels intense and urgent. Here is what has to be done. Dare to look at the questions in this reply. Deeply and honest and beyond thoughts and believes.

Warm regards Vivi

You believe you think. I ask you to look!

Thoughts arose and the "I" misguided "me" and I was lost in confusion, of the illusion.
Words: they climb all~over you, and "I " learned to be right, yet I was so wrong;)From the deepest dream set free into the living glory;) love is the love of all that is, which is here and now;)

You do not search. Search is happening.

Yes, everything is happening in this land of happening, not to anybody, just happening.

Deeply and honest and beyond thoughts and believes.

Been to the deepest depth, and found there`s no me and certainly no I, so this feels like a calming, a becoming, a wonder, a feeling rather than a thought. Feeling of home;)
Ready able and willing;)
L M:)

Hi Michael

This sounds so .........:)

When looking in the mirror, what do you see?

Warm regards Vivi

When looking in the mirror, what do you see?

A smiling calm reflection. A body able to reflect feelings of life.

Heh Heh!!

Do you feel anything missing in seeing that 'I' do not exist?

Do you feel anything missing in seeing that 'I' do not exist?

Not at all;0)

Ready to answer the final questions?

Here they come:

(1) Is there a "me," at all, anywhere, in any way, shape, or form? Was there ever?
(2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts, and how it works.
(3) How does it feel to see this?
(4) How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about this illusion?
(5) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
6) When you say "I", what are you referring to?
7) Is there an experiencer experiencing, or is there only experience?
8) Does experience belong to body or does body belong to experience?
8) What did you experience at the moment you awoke?
9) Describe your experience in the hours and days following awakening

Take you time answering.

Warm regards Vivi

(1) Is there a "me," at all, anywhere, in any way, shape, or form? Was there ever?

No, there only appeared to be a separation.

(2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts, and how it works.

A "thought" that was believed, everything was happening to a "me" a separate self.
Starting out at the early learning stage, as communication was misdirected by unsuspecting parents, teachers and the like.
Illusion is simply that, untrue only found to be attached to the suffering of a separate being, when in fact there is no separation, only a thought that there is.
Which was V powerful, even though non-existent.

(3) How does it feel to see this?

Relief: to live life, rather than survive within fear and turmoil of gathering all that is`nt, carrying it all around on a non existent belief of thinking there was a me all this time.
So a loving calmness, a sense of freedom unparalleled without the aid of chemical indulgence, newness oneness home not homeless.

4) How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about this illusion?

Experience say`s listen to gut, not the ever wandering mind.
Will describe when asked in the moment the Q arises.
Or send them a link to LU;)

(5) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

Thinking upon thinking upon thinking, yo~yoing in and out of real and unreal. A niggling frustration of something ain`t right, unable to nail it, until working and listening to Peter Gabriel "Love to be loved" a sense of noticing there actually was no I or me or mine or anything really which could be recognised as belonging to a label.
Hidden in plain sight;)

6) When you say "I", what are you referring to?

I now is simply a communicative directive.

7) Is there an experiencer experiencing, or is there only experience?

There is only experience happening, which is noticed.

8) Does experience belong to body or does body belong to experience?

Without body, experience can`t belong, because it can`t be felt or witnessed.

8a) What did you experience at the moment you awoke?

Simplicity at it`s finest. Still sinking in.

9) Describe your experience in the hours and days following awakening

Desire to capture, document the accrual realisation, even now a hovering shipment of doubt awaits, looking forward to seeing how thought handles this dilemma?:) Thoughts have no power to influence what feels free;)
Imagine thoughts ruling life:( Never again;)
Much Love M;)

You know the procedure....I'll be back :)

You never left;)

'There is only experience which is noticed'

What is noticing?

What is noticing?

Experience experiences experiencing, all that is.

Thank you