No problem at all. Overwhelm is just sensation + thought, right?Of course. In this particular case, though, although it's true that I had been feeling a bit overwhelmed by it all, I was spending most of my time next door and away from this computer.
Is there an “I” attached to it?
Thank you. But notice—what is actually here right now, before any label like “angel” or “Rali” or “beautiful person”?Thanks so much for everything, Rali. As I'd previously observed, you're like an angel. A superlatively beautiful person.
Don’t answer it—look. What is here, if no story is told?
Inspect the DE of “Rali”. There are colours labelled “screen containing text”, there is a conditioned interpretation of this text (aka thought/thinking) and further story about a person with qualities and actions…Do you see that?
Exactly. And now—look even closer.Actually, that's exactly what I was worried about. But then I realized it isn't true. These other people all exist in direct experience. The only one who doesn't is the one I was calling "me". And that makes sense, because our mental models of others are mostly non-fiction. Because those models are of the entire animals, who certainly obviously exist. Just as "my" body exists. I can recognize that it's fat and has grey hair, for example. Those are directly observable. What doesn't exist is the fictional character that was constructed to represent it. He was never observable because he never did exist.
That body—“fat,” “grey-haired”—is it anything more than labels applied to sensations and visual shapes?
Where is the actual line that says “this is a body” and “this is not”? Isn’t the contour also colour/seeing? Are there seeing and an object of seeing, OR just seeing?
Where does animal stop and world begin—without thought to slice the whole?
Isn’t even the body, like “others,” just part of the seamless arising?
If “you” was fiction…What makes “them” real?
Not saying they aren’t—but where’s the dividing line?
Look. Not answer.
Let’s look even deeper
Is there a physical self-contained within/as other bodies? How do you KNOW it’s there? “Others” exist only in the context "I/me". Is there a "you" that feels separated from them or is that just another thought/concept?
Go sit in a park or somewhere where there is a mixture of people and other living objects like birds trees, also non-'living' rocks water moving, wind etc. Then look at if there was a self in that image/colours/movement (of rocks, wind), then what about plants/animals? Any difference? Then the human bodies moving around, talking? What’s the difference apart from the ideas about that? Does that prove anything? If it is seen that I don't own a mind then how can others own their minds?
In DE there is only seeing/hearing/etc. and thinking provides the labels. It’s like a picture that everything is drawn in pencil on paper – the illusion of separation is created by different colours used – otherwise it’s all paper.
Different colours in seeing create the illusion of things and people but all that is there is seeing. Different levels of sounds create the illusion of a speech, bird song but all that is there is hearing. Can you see that?
When you touch 'another', are there two sensations one of 'you' and one of 'other' or just one/just feeling? Are others outside of feeling (the sensation)? Where is the border that marks where sensation ends and "other" begin?
Are others somehow outside of seeing? Check…What is the difference between seeing an ‘stranger’, seeing an ’enemy’, and seeing a ‘friend’ in DE – they are all colour with different thought content/story, right? How is one colour different from another in DE if all there is to colour is seeing?
Love
Rali
