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Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:34 pm
by Hendrik
the words "be honest" triggered a great amount of fear of maybe lying to myself and you.
Below the stillness below this is still here.
Fear etc happens - when I don´t claim this as mine, the space stays open
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:45 pm
by pop
That's great Hendrik
When you look you can't lie so don't worry.
Fear etc happens - when I don´t claim this as mine, the space stays open
It's good that you see how you don't need to claim this sensation.
Fear is an on-going pointer to contractions and blind spots. This is fine. Welcome it. Look at it when it arises.
Is there an I anywhere in that space? Is there an I that is fearful?
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:01 pm
by Hendrik
Dear Pop,
there was strong fear - which is not me
and there was a "taste" of a habitual thought of personhood - which is not me
there is the space - in which that happens.
In this space there is no I
The space is still there when the movement of "I" is there or has left
This space has no I, it is space
Love
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:07 pm
by Hendrik
... this space is not touched by I-feeling/thought or other movements
At this moment it feels a bit strange to call this movement "I"
Love
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:23 pm
by Hendrik
... the space is not fearful :-)
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:08 pm
by pop
Is the space an object?
Is the space you?
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:21 pm
by Hendrik
Dear Pop,
the space is no object.
I cannot really say that I am the space: the space has no feeling of I in it. The space is.
In this space there is nobody.
Love
Hendrik
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:05 pm
by pop
What's around the space?
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:35 am
by Hendrik
Dear Pop,
this space does not care for physical reality, it kind of permeats perception/perceived objects and at the same time it is beyond. I cannot find thomething that really is around it. This space "stretches" beyond borders.
Love
Hendrik
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:44 pm
by pop
Can you find Hendrik in the space?
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:21 pm
by Hendrik
The space is devoid of Hendrik
Love
?
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:11 pm
by Hendrik
Dear Pop,
when "I" am trying to open into spaciousness then the person seems to be real. Still: what is moving has no own "me".
When there is more relaxing and recognizing then there is no Hendrik to be found.
And all that movement is seen - all that is moving is objective, dancing (or not) - but all is seen by something that has no me, that gives no comment and is always here.
Love
Hendrik (or what is left...)
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:16 pm
by pop
Hi!
And all that movement is seen
Seen by what?
♥
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:39 pm
by Hendrik
Hi Pop,
the sensations in the belly or in the throat or head cannot see.
The space is surrounding all that.
Nobody sees.
Love
Hendrik
Re: calloffthesearch
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:50 pm
by pop
Who knows this?