I'm not separate

[Luchana]

Hi,
OK

there is life- but when there is knowing of things, knowledge creates sepration (seprate things) like ocean is different from beach.so knowledge is hindrance of reality (life).so i think when seeing from me is illusion.but seeing without me is appearance.

Notice are there diferent knowings one about the ocean and the second about the beach?
Is there 3rd knowing that there are thoughts ?
Can you point one of the knowing is here, second is over there and the third is ...under the table ;) ?

Much love
Luchana

[Asheshjain]

Hello mam
Q-Notice are there diferent knowings one about the ocean and the second about the beach?
Is there 3rd knowing that there are thoughts ?
Can you point one of the knowing is here, second is over there and the third is ...under the table ;) ?
A- knowing can't be divided - but during sleep,during unconsciousness there is no knowing.so knowing is also appearance?

[Luchana]

Hi

A- knowing can't be divided - but during sleep,during unconsciousness there is no knowing.so knowing is also appearance?

Yes and no, depending what meaning you put in this word - appearance.
Notice - is there knowing that there is a wall or a window or tree or sky...look around?
and also is there a knowing that there is no unicorn?
Is there a knowing that there was no dream this night? Yes you can say - this night there was no dreaming.
So, there is a knowing what appears and what not, but is the knowing appears also... the knowing is.

Notice is there a knower?
Someone who produce knowing ?
And can stop producing it?
Or who make efford to bring knowing here?
Is there an you who is this knowing? or there is just knowing what is going on right now?

Much love,
Luchana

[Asheshjain]

Hello mam
Q-Notice is there a knower?
A- knowing - no knower agreed.
Q-Someone who produce knowing ?
A- it's spontaneouse
Q-And can stop producing it?
A- no
Q-or who make efford to bring knowing here?
A- no one
Q-is there an you who is this knowing? or there is just knowing
A- happening by itself,just knowing.
Q-what is going on right now?
A- there is raining outside,nice atmosphere,loud sound from clouds, seeing, listening happening, lightening from sky.
Thoughts appearing.answering questions..
Standing and watching rain.desire to go in rain 🌧️.

[Luchana]

Hi,

wonderful looking.

Standing and watching rain.desire to go in rain 🌧️.

Beautiful.
Is there a problem with the desire?
Does the desire belong to something or someone?
Does the watching implies someone to watch?
Does the desire implies someone to desire?

Much love,
Luchana

[Asheshjain]

Hello mam
Q-.
Is there a problem with the desire?
Does the desire belong to something or someone?
A- No problem with desire.it arises in beingness.
Q-Does the watching implies someone to watch?
Does the desire implies someone to desire?
A-watching and desire is from beingness

I am beingness - also create sepration?

[Luchana]

Hi,

I am beingness - also create sepration?

What are you can't be known.

Call it beigness, nothingness, everythingness ...doesn't matter.

How separation itself is experienced?

What is separate from what exactly?



Much love,
Luchana

[Asheshjain]

Hello mam
Q-How separation itself is experienced?
A- different, different solid things - like people are different from building,cow is different from wall from human etc
Q-What is separate from what exactly?
A- all things are different in living and non-living,size shape etc.

[Luchana]

Hi,

all things are different in living and non-living,size shape etc.

Yes, they are diferent but is there someone or something that IS what is here?
Notice wall, tree, flower, window, you, your relatives, neibours - all these are different one from another, ok.
BUT
now pull out that there is something that is window, wall, flower... and pull out this idea that there is someone who is Asheshjain, who is neibour...etc.

Look :) is there someone who is this what is?
is there separation at all?


Much love,
Luchana

ps. Is it possible for you to join in one of the zoom meetings? All these doubts about separation and so on can be looked at together.

[Asheshjain]

Hello mam.
Q-Look :) is there someone who is this what is?
is here separation at all?
A- i get that there is no one,there is only nothing being.
If name and form are overlooked there remains is beingness only.but this is understanding,many a time i m able to see that there is emptiness only,but otherwise I see different things.
The appearance of things sometimes finf empty,and sometimes find real.

[Luchana]

Hi,

i get that there is no one,...

Mmm, no :)
We are looking that there is no you who is this human, but not that there is no human who have a family, job, sensations, house, work, holiday...etc.
Is it clear that we are looking that YOU who is human do NOT exist but not that there is no human ? :)
Look at your face in the miror - there is a human or cat?
the answer is obvious but is there an I who is this human?
Find the I?


Much love
Luchana

[Asheshjain]

Hello mam.

Cat don't know that it's a cat,how it looks,body don't know anything about itself.isnt cat and human are one energy?
Things don't know that they are so and so things,things and various form are concepts.how nothing appear as things is mystery?.
There is no one who is doing or looking.
Trying to get rid of illusion of me is probably also what's happening.
LOOKING - looks various forms - but how one energy/beingness appears as forms is also unexplainable.

[Luchana]

Hi,

Cat don't know that it's a cat,how it looks,body don't know anything about itself.isnt cat and human are one energy?
Things don't know that they are ...

Nice. Look your face in the mirror and notice the idea "I am this human"
How somenthig which is experienced (human) becoms "I am that which is experienced"
Notice - in this very moment - are you a sound that is experiensed right now?
Are you sensations?
Are you the body that is experienced?
Are you the seeing that is experiensed?
Are you this alivnes that is experienced?

Please look and try not to fall in intellectualising about noting and everything.

Much Love
Luchana

[Asheshjain]

Hello mam
Q-Notice - in this very moment - are you a sound that is experiensed right now?
A- no i m not the sound
Q-Are you sensations?
A-No
Q-Are you the body that is experienced?
A- no
Q-are you the seeing that is experiensed?
A- no
Q-Are you this alivnes that is experienced?
A- not sure ,but appearing like there is only aliveness.

It seems that without experince- of seeing, listening there is nothing.
Just now I m suffering from fever,bodyache, sneezing, headache etc- so there are these sensations - no one claiming these sensations.
Aliveness and beingness - can't be expressed in words .

[Luchana]

Hi,

Ooo, I wish you an easy and quick passing of these sensations. I am sending you love <3

Q-Are you this alivnes that is experienced?

A- not sure ,but appearing like there is only aliveness.

"I am not sure that I am this alivnes" - Yes, OK. Now notice that thoughts are coming with "recognition" that something is not what is but I/me or belongs to I/me - alivness, body, movements, thoughts, emotions...thoughts with content that there is an I who think - but there is just thoughts and not thinking. There is an I who has fever and etc.

Reflect on this and write what is found ?

Much Love
Luchana