The Gate

When you say 'myself', what are you referring to?


The pointing to who is speaking.

Myself as I am pointing verbally. as in a quote.

And if you are not 1

Then 0 appears, which is to fine a point....o)

Do you exist?

Existence lives, experience lives, do we exist? only if we want to..

What?

only if we want to..

We
want
?

I don't know Michael. I seems to me that the 3 or 4 answers from you are mostly made of thoughts? Do they really come from DE? I do not get what they are about. It feels like the meaning disappears before my eyes. It seems like 'surface'-answers.

Could you please look at them again DE, and give me new answers. As detailed as you can, thank you.

Vivi

3 or 4 latest answers I mean

Hi Vivi, afraid I am still stuck as if I am back at square -1:(
Thoughts are strangling me and appear to have barricaded the true me in:(
Totally lost and out of control, this is truly how I feel:( Frustrated? a little:(
Hopeless? 50/50:( + :) Giving up? Not on your life;)
Appears that I am struggling with not letting go, but I don`t recognise what I`m suppose to be letting go of?:( It`s as if the Yo-Yo string has snapped:(
Do you exist? I am not sure how to answer this? Part of me knows what's true and an equal part seems to also know, doubting thoughts, yet my senses feel fine, it`s just not sinking in:( It`s as if the need to get somewhere is being blocked, which causes frustration and a feeling of letting you down:(Wish one would realise without all this confusion:/
Any tricks up your sleeve?
Happy as Larry Michael;) AND :/

Hi Michael

First of all - there are nothing to let go. Just stay with what is at the moment. If that is confusion and feeling 'blinded' by thoughts, then that is what is right now. It is OK. Notice it: 'Aha, this is how it is'

There are no need to get somewhere. There are nowhere to get at/to.

There seem to be frustration and a feeling of letting down. There is wish of no confusion. That is what is. Notice it. Let it be. This is what there is awareness of at the moment. Fine.

Probably it is totally different when you read this reply - maybe it is the same. Both ways - Fine!

This is what appears at the moment, nothing you can do about it.

Warm regards Vivi

What experiences fright?
Just pulled out of drive way and all of a sudden another car almost hit me:(
In an instant fright/fear of? What ,death as it is not experienced as good but certainly a big no no comes from where?
Is it the imaginary I which is tapped into instinct or simply instinct which is true self?
This is`nt what you want to here, but it`s all I can come up with, unless, hang on a mo...happening happens, yes I go with that, doing gets done, i can go with that, seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching, yes they are combined together to form feelings, which are reactions to the experiencing which is being registered by this feeling machine called the body of experiencing. which is operating from everything to nowhere and then i is waiting for new instruction or happening to arise, mind will label it and the true self oughta go within the flow of this without becoming entrapped by thought merry-go-round land, unhealthy and energy zapping, to say the least;/
Feel free 2 slaughter me:)
Oh and there is no I only me.
scared of U but love U;)

What experiences fright?
Just pulled out of drive way and all of a sudden another car almost hit me:(

Yes, what experiences fright? Are there anything experiencing? Do fright (and any other feeling) simply arise? Are an experiencer neccesary?

In an instant fright/fear of? What, death as it is not experienced as good

By whom/what is death not experienced as good?

but certainly a big no no comes from where?

Simply comes?

Is it the imaginary I which is tapped into instinct or simply instinct which is true self?

Imaginary self, made up by thoughts, thinking why, what, where.

This is`nt what you want to here, but it`s all I can come up with

I want to here what ever is present.

unless, hang on a mo...happening happens, yes I go with that, doing gets done, i can go with that,
and no doer?
seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching, yes they are combined together to form feelings,

By thoughts

which are reactions to the experiencing which is being registered by this feeling machine called the body of experiencing. which is operating from everything to nowhere

which are reactions to the experiencing which is being registered by this apparent feeling machine called the body of experiencing. which seems to be operating from everything to nowhere

and then i is waiting for new instruction or happening to arise, mind will label it and the true self oughta go within the flow of this without becoming entrapped by thought merry-go-round land, unhealthy and energy zapping, to say the least;/

No I waiting nowhere. Waiting for new instructions happens. Or are there a doer of waiting but not of painting? Mind will label it. Yes. Let 'oughta' be. Entrapping will happen until it stops.

Feel free 2 slaughter me:)

Only with kindness :)

Oh and there is no I only me.

What is this me?

scared of U but love U;

No need to be scared – I do not exist, neither do you :)
Thank you for this reply, keep looking in direct experience as often as you can. '
Warm regards Vivi

Wonderful moment to Vivi;)

I want to here what ever is present.

Present is the me myself and I:(
Blankness, lost~ness, pointless, useless are the only thoughts which arise, well I am noticing, trying to not think seems impossible:(
Direct experience has disappeared from sight, feelings are none existent, knowing what one "wants" seems to be gone, it`s as if I am inseparable from all that is`nt:( or even all that is:(
Vivi is going to have to get the Zen stick out, or abandon this block head made of solid lead:(
Thoughts looping more than ever, getting further away appears to be happening, with a glimmer of hope, dangling on a single thread:(
DE seems to be consumed, nothing to report except, nothing really matters, yet the desire to share what I hav`nt got yet, it`s all a little do~lally:(
The mind is doing nothing except fight against the desire to become detached:( Life goes on as before except now practising what comes natural is on it`s way, even though I know it`s already here, just seeing is hiding:(
On a positive note though, glad it`s me, not you going through this storm in a tea cup;) Happy Monday Vivi, Love M;o/

Hi Michael

Get out of that teacup!

When you drink tea, look at the cup. Does the cup need to be 'your' cup or is it fine being a cup?

Then look at your hand, does it have to be Michaels hand to function or does it function just fine being a hand?

Now look at thoughts, are there someone thinking them or are they just appearing and disappearring regardless of a somebody identifying with them and take them for being his?

Go outside watch the clouds on the sky. They are there and passes by, then a new one is on the way. Does the clouds have to have someone/-thing to make then appear or disappear, or does it just happen.

I want you to follow the instruction not thinking your way through this, LOOK.

Then come back and tell me about your experience.

Warm greetings Vivi

Michael

Resistance can obstruct very efficiently. What is the resistance about. Do not answer you don't know. Dare to look at it.

Kind regards Vivi

Does the cup need to be 'your' cup or is it fine being a cup?

All things/words are seen clearly as labels, words to describe for the mind to place them in order.
The order which is out of sync is the letting go of the absolute no control of what "I" believe to be true?

Then look at your hand, does it have to be Michaels hand to function or does it function just fine being a hand?

It`s a hand, a tool attached to the body, attached to a mind operated by the brain, inside of Michael who is a label with a attachment to something.
The something is known as oneness, this my mind gets yet will not allow it to be present, simply because thought cannot see the separation, as a part it feels more secure.

Now look at thoughts, are there someone thinking them or are they just appearing and disappearring regardless of a somebody identifying with them and take them for being his?

DE tells me this body is making them his own, they arise from nowhere yet feel they are mine so thoughts which are simply labels, appear to make sense as though they where in order and the non existent separate self/label wrongly thinks he is in control as the thinker has believed thought over actual obviously life`s message of no one is in control. Yes this is true and a definite realisation is becoming clearer, I feel.
A little muddled but wanted to send as it appeared;)
Thanks Vivi
Love M;)

Resistance can obstruct very efficiently.

This strikes a very fine chord indeed, as if the unable to comprehend separation mind struggles to think logically so appears to confuse it`s hard drive which endeavours to be in control, what ever the consequences. Like it`s thinking all sorts of combinations to keep a firm hold on the situation, as in ego thought protection from a made up enemy, a self illusionary self.
Mind "thinks" it knows, but clearly it does not.
Constantly looking, continuing this imaginary epic voyage;)
Love M;)