JUNE 30
Diana Martínez Hello Denise, how was this week? could you keep looking for the i? What could you observe during this break?
Denise Ra pretty peaceful the first few days, really present with what was. not so much I as usual. then that faded a bit. then yesterday lots of I.
Diana Martínez what could you notice about this i yesterday? could you observe how it appeared, disappeared, became stronger and weaker.
Denise Ra a thought arose about something that someone else might or might not be doing and then physical sensations arose then emotions. i did notice right away and spent some time in DE with emotions but didn't really get to the bottom of it. got off track and started thinking about what the emotions might be.
Denise Ra definitely the "i" is not a stable steady thing. very changeable.
Diana Martínez Yes, not a steady thing. Then how could this i be a something that contolls and commands our life 24 hours a day? what happens to life when this i is weaker or fades? does it stop?
Denise Ra life is regardless of whether or not someone believes in the "i"
Denise Ra life was kind of nice with less i!
Diana Martínez what is this "i" useful for? is it needed for anything?
Denise Ra yesterday i was trying to figure out what the I was protecting? i think it was trying to keep me from being hurt emotionally. but that also keeps me from being vulnerable and experiencing love.
Diana Martínez I will ask you to observe this when this "i" is stronger and when it is weaker. When does suffering feels bigger or heavier, when lots of i are involved or less i (so to speak). No need to answer now, observe it when this happens and tell me what you notice
Denise Ra ok
Diana Martínez why would the release of the "i" belief mean emotional pain?
Diana Martínez is there something precious there that may be lost?
Denise Ra i don't think that releasing the i will bring pain. pain was there because of the "i"
Denise Ra there was a whole story, an "i" story. i wanted to release it so the pain would go away
Diana Martínez do you expect all the pain to go away ever?
Denise Ra uh, maybe.
Diana Martínez Pain can still come, expecting it to magically dissapear is not a very realistic expectation.
Diana Martínez but it is real that a lot of pain comes from believing the "i" story.
Denise Ra do u really think i am a realistic person? i believe it is possible to "get enlightened" on facebook. LOL
Diana Martínez hahaha, what does it mean to get enlightened and what achieves it?
Denise Ra get enlightened = see through the "i" illusion. life achieves it.
Diana Martínez ok, seeing through the "i" illusion is possible, and it is not a you that achieves it.
Denise Ra true
Denise Ra though i tend to forget that it is not "me" who sees thru the illusion
Diana Martínez should all pain go away? isn't it just a part of life like thoughts, emotions, body?
Diana Martínez why should it go away?
Denise Ra ah, i see. well if all false beliefs are eventually gone then will there still be pain?
Denise Ra how can there still be pain if all false beliefs go?
Diana Martínez you will still be able to feel sad or angry, fearful or frustrated, you can't control emotions after all.
Diana Martínez do you expect all the false beliefs to go after this investigation?
Denise Ra ok. so much for enlightenment
Denise Ra maybe eventually
Diana Martínez could it be that you are expecting a lot of things from this investigation?
Diana Martínez It could even be the case that seeing happen but you won't notice because you´re waiting for something else to occur.
Denise Ra busted!
Denise Ra do you think i have seen?
Diana Martínez An emotion arises, for example anger because your boss yelled at you, even when not believing there is an i you feel angry, nothing contolls emotions, why should unwanted emotions stop as a result of SEEING?
Denise Ra why would there be anger if there is no i?
Diana Martínez why not? is the i anger?
Denise Ra so u r saying that emotions arise because i have a body. not because i have an "i"?
Diana Martínez emotions arise because they do, that simple. why is an i needed for emotions to come?
Denise Ra so Life experiences emotions whether or not i have an "i"
Diana Martínez EXACTLY!
JULY 1st
Denise Ra when the i is stronger and DE is forgotten, suffering is more. sometimes even with DE there is suffering as we spoke of yesterday, emotions happen even with less "i"
Diana Martínez Well observed Denise, less suffering is realistic as an outcome of this investigation. Yes, emotions don't depend of this "i" they are part of life, what would life be like without emotions?
Denise Ra life would be rather flat w/o emotionse
Diana Martínez I also notice that you relate this i more with negative emotions than with positive ones.
Denise Ra LOL
Denise Ra does the I have anything to do with positive emotions other than story-telling?
Denise Ra i tell myself nice stories so that i don't feel unhappy.
Denise Ra i detach from stories i don't like so that i don't feel unhappy.
Diana Martínez You say: does the I have anything to do with positive emotions other than story-telling? I ask you, Does the i has anything to do with negative emotions other than story telling?
Denise Ra emotions come even in the absence of an i. negative and positive. i can see that.
Diana Martínez could you see that directly in the exercise?
Denise Ra i don't pay as much attention to positive emotions, so no i did not see it in the exercise.
Diana Martínez Be alert when you have a positive emotion an observe them too, just look at them happen in DE and see if you find any i in there.
Denise Ra yes i will
Diana Martínez do you control story telling, feeling sad or angry, are you the stories the mind tells or the emotions?
Denise Ra control no. but sometimes storytelling can slow down when i notice it in DE. i am not the stories. this body experiences the emotions but is not them. they are very powerful though and sometimes seem to create i feelings.
Denise Ra or perhaps not create but point to places where the i is stronger
Diana Martínez do YOU notice in DE? what is this i that do that?
Denise Ra it seems like "i" notice in DE. kind of a stepping back. i guess i still' think' it is' me' noticing things in DE.
Diana Martínez What notices? There is no you to notice it.
Diana Martínez you say I still think it is me noticing things in DE? Isn't that just another thought popping up? can you find the noticer behind it?
Denise Ra yes, what is it that notices? and why does it still SEEM like me noticing in DE? apparently the "i" has claimed DE. ug.
Diana Martínez what claims DE? another thougth?
Denise Ra i was not conscious of thoughts claiming DE as mine.
Diana Martínez well observed!!
Denise Ra thx!
Diana Martínez then what is concsious of it, what is looking, searching, being aware of, observing? can you find anything behind the mind labeling??
Denise Ra it's odd to actually realize that DE is Life/Universe experiencing through this body. it's powerful. i want to do it more often. yes, i see the mind labelling.
Diana Martínez Great!!
Denise Ra there is DE. there is mind labelling. two separate things.
Diana Martínez does mind labelling contain an i anywhere?
Diana Martínez Does mind labelling refer to an i that you can observe in DE?
Denise Ra mind labelling claims and i that does not exist.
Diana Martínez Yes!!!
Diana Martínez Is the "i" label anything more that a communication tool?
Denise Ra well besides being delusional (believing it exists) the i is only a communication tool.
Diana Martínez Yes!!
Denise Ra in DE ther is no need for an "i"
Diana Martínez You have found no "i" yet, in all the places we have looked, where is this resistance to the release of this i? Where is this belief still clinging? Look at this deeply.
Diana Martínez read my phrase, also notice if you get any reaction to it.
Denise Ra i don't think i am in resistance to releasing the i. i think it is just a very strong and long- held habit. the only things stopping me from being in DE more are laziness and forgetfulness.
Denise Ra i do still see 'others' as others
Diana Martínez Lazyness? Maybe i am not understanding this well, what do you mean by that? actuallyi you have been very dedicated to the investigation.
Diana Martínez please explain more about what you meant.
Denise Ra and i thank you greatly for supporting me in this! i seem to live in a dream of forgetting to be in DE, that would be the laziness i speak of.
Denise Ra learning to be in DE seems to be a gradual process for me
Diana Martínez hehe, that is not laziness it is inertia.Denise Ra hm. ok!
Diana Martínez How long have you believed in an "i"? How long have intellectual view dominated life?
Denise Ra 99%
Diana Martínez Just inertia
Denise Ra cool
Diana Martínez you say " learning to be in DE seems to be a gradual process for me" It seems that you want to get to a point where you experience only through DE. am i correct?
Denise Ra no. i would settle for more in DE than not and noticing quickly when thought has taken.
Denise Ra taken over
Diana Martínez it is not important how quick you notice, or how quick you go back to DE, the important thing is that it happens.
Denise Ra LOL. some part of me wants to have a temper tantrum when u say that.
Diana Martínez interesting, sounds like some hidden resistance. Look at it.
Diana Martínez That's great!
Diana Martínez Any emotions or physical reactions to my words?
Denise Ra i'm just lazy. i want it to be one way not back and forth.
Denise Ra i don't want to have to be Ever Vigilant
Diana Martínez you won't have to, just flow with it.
Denise Ra thanks for the reassurance.
Diana Martínez accept that you will forget and then look again. and again, and again.
Denise Ra ug!!!!
Denise Ra it is a new habit for me to accept things instead of trying to fix things
Diana Martínez many people after the gate doubt they have seen and then remember again.
Denise Ra i guess i will just have to notice what thought stories are happening when that happens. i will adjust.
Diana Martínez Don't feel that YOU HAVE TO BE stressed and vigilant of this 24 hours a day. (You can't controll it anyway)
Diana Martínez relax, just notice what is already.
Denise Ra LOL. i am gradually giving up being stressed about anything, so i will just add this to my list of things not to be stressed about.
Denise Ra yes, it is already. i see that.
Diana Martínez It will be back and forth because of this inertia, why is that a problem?
Denise Ra it's only a problem if i believe thoughts that tell me it is a problem
Denise Ra and even then it's not really a problem
Denise Ra and still there is a little bit of story-telling that 'some people' cross the gate and stay firmly there always and why can't i be one of those people
Diana Martínez I don't know if this happen for some people,it wasn't the case for me. If it happens it would be the most rare case.
Denise Ra ok, i like knowing that.
Diana Martínez Seeing is different for each person. The important thing is that you see, not that your experience is like the ones "others" had.
Denise Ra laziness again. i want it to be easy and permanent.
Diana Martínez Don't worry about "others" focus in seeing though the "i" and "others" will become clear or not be important anymore.
Denise Ra what does that mean others might not be important any more?
Diana Martínez it may be easy or not, it is unlikely to be permanent.
Denise Ra ?
Diana Martínez Notice that this is just another expectation.
Denise Ra that i will see through otherness?
Diana Martínez a thought telling you "this should be like this, not like that"
Denise Ra yes, i see that
Diana Martínez more and more expectations keep coming to surface
Denise Ra yes of course they do, LOL
Diana Martínez You said before that you kept hanging to the i to protect from emotional suffering, but you noticed in yesterday's exercise that suffering is bigger with "more i" then what is being protected? why is it being protected?
Denise Ra i said the "i" was trying to protect itself(me?) from emotional pain.
Diana Martínez what is protecting what from emotional pain?
Diana Martínez you asked yesteday if i thought you have seen. I didn't see the message. Only you can know that, but you have to clear your expectations and look if you have seen. All that is required is to know you have seen, that you know you have seen clearly beyond intellectual understanding that the "i"is an illusion.
2 JULY
Denise Ra in answer to "what is protecting what from emotional pain?" is it possible that thoughts are trying to protect? protect from other thoughts? when there are strong negative emotions they are felt by this body. do body and thought conspire to protect themselves?
Diana Martínez is the body in any real danger?
Denise Ra no.
Diana Martínez why does it feel like the body needs protection from anything?
Denise Ra but it certainly is used to reacting to protect from painful feelings
Denise Ra some part is afraid. i'm not sure what part.
Denise Ra in DE there is body tension is response to thoughts. thoughts feed that tension. the thoughts might be true or not.
Diana Martínez you noticed in yesterday's exercise that suffering is bigger with "more i" than with "less i", why is the i being protected? What does this "i" do for you?
Denise Ra now when i feel those i try to be in DE with them. thoughts are 'winning' in this one situation, fear and tension remain.
Denise Ra my hope of course is that by observing in DE the pain/fear/tension will go away.
Diana Martínez by observing the feelings in DE you will observe the feelings, they may go or not.
Denise Ra yes, i understand that now. what is being protected though?
Diana Martínez that is the big question. Is there something being protected there?
Diana Martínez Can you find it?
Denise Ra in DE it is the body being protected from pain and an attempt to stop thoughts that are reacted to with pain.
Denise Ra i can't find a thing that is being protected. it's more a loop of thoughts.
Denise Ra and the body
Diana Martínez Exactly, it is a loop of thoughts, thoughts about thoughts, about thoughts and so on. Can you observe clearly how this happens when the protection mechanism is operating?
Denise Ra yes
Diana Martínez you said that the body is not in real danger. why does the body feel so involved in it? why does it feel like that?
Denise Ra i think it is just a habit of reacting with tension to certain thoughts(stimuli)
Denise Ra the bodies reaction is an indicator that thoughts are not being experienced in DE
Diana Martínez you missed this question, i will post it again : Exactly, it is a loop of thoughts, thoughts about thoughts, about thoughts and so on. Can you observe clearly how this happens when the protection mechanism is operating?
Denise Ra yes i can see this
Diana Martínez Great! is the body what is actually being protected or only where the emotions reflect?
Denise Ra the emotions are causing a reaction in the body. it is the reaction that is being protected against.
Diana Martínez can you explain more about the second line, it is not clear to me.
Denise Ra the body is not in danger but it is where the reaction is happening. it is where the emotions reflect.
Diana Martínez YES!!
Denise Ra this is cool to see
Diana Martínez What would happen if the belief in the i was released? would it be dangerous? what would be lost?
Denise Ra everything would continue as it has. there might be less reactivity to thoughts some days. life might feel looser, freer some times. lost? false beliefs about all thoughts being true
Denise Ra gained - the ability to slip in to DE more easily and more often
Diana Martínez is it under your control?
Denise Ra what 'it'?
Diana Martínez the ability to slip into DE
Denise Ra no, but as with all things learned, practice makes it easier and more likely
Diana Martínez Ok
Diana Martínez could you find any other expectations yesterday?
Denise Ra back to laziness and difficulty focusing- it was difficult to look, so no.
Diana Martínez no problem, if they are there they will come out eventually
Denise Ra gremlins
Diana Martínez hahaha, keep looking for them and don´t worry if you don't find any
Denise Ra can do
3 JULY
Denise Ra when looking, i don't find fear for now and i don't find expectations. i'm pretty sure more expectations will show up but the universe has kindly(like a boot to the head) relieved me of my expectations of being always at peace and equanimous after the gate. i get it. what comes is what comes.
Diana Martínez Great, but keep alert for any fears or expectations you may find.
Denise Ra sure
Diana Martínez Let's continue with this. You asked if i thought you have seen. Only you can know that, but you have to clear your expectations and look if you have seen. All that is required is to know you have seen, that you know you have seen clearly beyond intellectual understanding that the "i"is an illusion. What came up after reading this?
Denise Ra this knowing happened about ten days ago during one of our conversations and lasted for about 3 or 4 days and then kind of faded.
Denise Ra so, i get it but not all the time
Denise Ra and i know i don't have to get it all the time
Diana Martínez did you get it beyond intellectual understanding?
Denise Ra o yes. it was that day i was laughing so much. it was a very gentle thing, no big aha
Diana Martínez not everyone gets big aha moments
Denise Ra yup
Diana Martínez Have you seen through the illusion of self?
Denise Ra briefly
Diana Martínez Why does it still feel like you should get this all the time?
Denise Ra it doesn't
Diana Martínez It looks like you have seen this. Do you have something else you want to talk about related to the self? something you want to clear out? or do you feel ready for the final questions?
Denise Ra sure
Denise Ra sure, ask the questions.
Diana Martínez Great!
Denise Ra it's been a long slog for you with me. i can see you might be excited.
Diana Martínez I will write them down here, you can answer them in any way you prefer, i suggest you to read them today and reply tomorrow or whenever you feel ready. you can answer them one by one, all in one reply or in any way you feel more comfortable.
Denise Ra ok. will do. thanks.
Diana Martínez Keep in mind they may be "final questions" sometimes additional questions are asked to clear some points out from your answers. Then other guides check it and may have other questions.
Diana Martínez So, here they are
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
6) Anything to add?
Diana Martínez Tell me if you have any doubts about the questions and i can explain it.
Denise Ra awesome. it may be a few days. tomorrow is a holiday here.
Denise Ra diana, you have been awesome and definitely gone above and beyond to help me!
Diana Martínez Well done Denise!, you have persisted and looked with honesty, it has been a pleasure to guide this investigation. You can print the questions and sit with them for a few days, a long as you need. Then reply back in here.
Diana Martínez Can you notice now how these expectations were getting in the way?
Denise Ra yup, when looking for a big bang one might not notice a slight shift in the quality of the light
Diana Martínez Exactly!
Diana Martínez Since i have nothing more to say for now, i will leave you now with these questions. I will be here waiting for your reply.
Denise Ra thanks!
Diana Martínez no problem :)
denise is ready
Re: denise is ready
Pienso y luego (creo que) existo.
I think, therefore (i believe that) i am.
I think, therefore (i believe that) i am.
Re: denise is ready
7 JULY
Denise Ra 1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
there is only the illusion of a separate self, an I. there never was a me at all.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
the illusion of a separate self is only a persistent habit of believing that thoughts, emotions and desires constitute a self. it is a fallacy created by the way we use language to name each and every person and thing. newborns have it right, they are one with the mother and do not experience themselves separately. our incessant labelling of everything and constant talking (out loud and in our heads) create a barrier composed of thought between "us" and the Direct Experience of Life.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
when i See it now "i" feel lighter. sometimes i See it and sometimes i don't. now there is a greater possibility that thoughts will be noticed in Direct Experience instead of being unquestioningly believed. before this inquiry, i tried to control my thoughts hoping that would allow me to control my life. in the past few days i have been very much stuck in the "i" and even though i knew it there was nothing that could be done to change that.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
when we discussed consciously noticing "i" thoughts and emotions, and i realized that belief in an "i" is a habit and that "my" is just another thought label.
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
decisions/choices - happen from a mash-up of thought, emotion and action which arise from god-knows-where. sometimes i think i know what i want and at the last minute i change my mind.
as much as thoughts and emotions tell us that we have control and free will, we don't. there seem to be patterns that people experience individually and as groups. sometimes these stay the same and sometimes they change. i don't know how or why. if i had control of my life it would be my definition of perfect, and it's not.
intention is just as amorphous. i can have thoughts about wanting to See but there is no telling if it will actually happen or not today.
6) Anything to add?
i am grateful to liberation unleashed for being here and i am especially grateful to you diana for all the love and time you put into helping me See.
8 JULY
Diana Martínez Thanks for your clear answers Denise, just a couple of questions from me.
-From question #5 -Could you give me an example of choice/control from your experience? you have already done that with the example of typing and doing laundry, remember? I just ask for one more of those examples.
-Do you notice the difference between the first time you did this exercise about observing choice/control and when you do it now? (sorry for being so repetitive about it, i know that other guides would have asked that later anyway)
After you answer, i will ask other guides to check your answers and see if they got more questions for you.
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Denise Ra -From question #5 -Could you give me an example of choice/control from your experience? you have already done that with the example of typing and doing laundry, remember? I just ask for one more of those examples.
i know i need to do paperwork today that is due tomorrow. - thought
i say i am going to do the paperwork today. - action
i run errands and sit down on the sofa to cool off. - action
i turn on the tv. - action
i watch tv instead of doing the paperwork. - action
i think the paperwork can wait til later - thought
-Do you notice the difference between the first time you did this exercise about observing choice/control and when you do it now? (sorry for being so repetitive about it, i know that other guides would have asked that later anyway)
yes, it is much easier now to see the parts of action, thought, and emotion that combine into events.
Diana Martínez
i know
i need
i say
i run
i turn
i watch
knowing, needing, saying, running, turning on the tv, watching. Do any of these things happening indicate an i, a separate self anywhere?
While you reply that, i will ask other guides if they have more questions. Well done Denise!!!
Denise Ra 1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
there is only the illusion of a separate self, an I. there never was a me at all.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
the illusion of a separate self is only a persistent habit of believing that thoughts, emotions and desires constitute a self. it is a fallacy created by the way we use language to name each and every person and thing. newborns have it right, they are one with the mother and do not experience themselves separately. our incessant labelling of everything and constant talking (out loud and in our heads) create a barrier composed of thought between "us" and the Direct Experience of Life.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
when i See it now "i" feel lighter. sometimes i See it and sometimes i don't. now there is a greater possibility that thoughts will be noticed in Direct Experience instead of being unquestioningly believed. before this inquiry, i tried to control my thoughts hoping that would allow me to control my life. in the past few days i have been very much stuck in the "i" and even though i knew it there was nothing that could be done to change that.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
when we discussed consciously noticing "i" thoughts and emotions, and i realized that belief in an "i" is a habit and that "my" is just another thought label.
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
decisions/choices - happen from a mash-up of thought, emotion and action which arise from god-knows-where. sometimes i think i know what i want and at the last minute i change my mind.
as much as thoughts and emotions tell us that we have control and free will, we don't. there seem to be patterns that people experience individually and as groups. sometimes these stay the same and sometimes they change. i don't know how or why. if i had control of my life it would be my definition of perfect, and it's not.
intention is just as amorphous. i can have thoughts about wanting to See but there is no telling if it will actually happen or not today.
6) Anything to add?
i am grateful to liberation unleashed for being here and i am especially grateful to you diana for all the love and time you put into helping me See.
8 JULY
Diana Martínez Thanks for your clear answers Denise, just a couple of questions from me.
-From question #5 -Could you give me an example of choice/control from your experience? you have already done that with the example of typing and doing laundry, remember? I just ask for one more of those examples.
-Do you notice the difference between the first time you did this exercise about observing choice/control and when you do it now? (sorry for being so repetitive about it, i know that other guides would have asked that later anyway)
After you answer, i will ask other guides to check your answers and see if they got more questions for you.
22 hrs · Edited · Like
Denise Ra -From question #5 -Could you give me an example of choice/control from your experience? you have already done that with the example of typing and doing laundry, remember? I just ask for one more of those examples.
i know i need to do paperwork today that is due tomorrow. - thought
i say i am going to do the paperwork today. - action
i run errands and sit down on the sofa to cool off. - action
i turn on the tv. - action
i watch tv instead of doing the paperwork. - action
i think the paperwork can wait til later - thought
-Do you notice the difference between the first time you did this exercise about observing choice/control and when you do it now? (sorry for being so repetitive about it, i know that other guides would have asked that later anyway)
yes, it is much easier now to see the parts of action, thought, and emotion that combine into events.
Diana Martínez
i know
i need
i say
i run
i turn
i watch
knowing, needing, saying, running, turning on the tv, watching. Do any of these things happening indicate an i, a separate self anywhere?
While you reply that, i will ask other guides if they have more questions. Well done Denise!!!
Pienso y luego (creo que) existo.
I think, therefore (i believe that) i am.
I think, therefore (i believe that) i am.
Re: denise is ready
Denise Ra using the word "i" is a convenience for communicating. "i" does not actually refer to a a separate self.
Diana Martínez ok, now some guides are reading your answers, they got questions for you.
1 "in the past few days i have been very much stuck in the "i" and even though i knew it there was nothing that could be done to change that"
-What do you mean by being "stuck in the "i""?
-Is there still any desire to become self-less, ego-less or unstuck? Look deeply
2 In your reply to #5. you deny that there is free will ("we don't" and "if i had control of my life". Is there a powerless I somewhere? Explain more about the illusion of free will and how it happens.+
3 In your answers you talk a lot about the I. When looking happens, can you SEE that this I isn't here, never was here and never will be here? Is this a experiential "knowing"?
4 without an I, what is seen as real right now?
Denise Ra 1 "in the past few days i have been very much stuck in the "i" and even though i knew it there was nothing that could be done to change that"
-What do you mean by being "stuck in the "i""?
-Is there still any desire to become self-less, ego-less or unstuck? Look deeply
it is good enough to know that there is a spectrum from totally not having a clue that the "i" does not exist to that free-floating feeling that was experienced when Seeing happened. the non-existence of the "i" has been seen through so total cluelessness will not be a permanent state again hopefully, but stuff pushes my buttons and the ego flares big and bright sometimes- stuck (or lost) in the "i". it is good enough to just know that this also is not a permanent state.
2 In your reply to #5. you deny that there is free will ("we don't" and "if i had control of my life". Is there a powerless I somewhere? Explain more about the illusion of free will and how it happens.+
it is possible that i have recently believed in a powerless i but the truth is that the "i" is powerless because it does not exist.
the "i" is not real and so cannot be in charge of "our lives". what is real is that thoughts, emotions and actions arise from All-That-Is. there is no controlling All-That-Is so there is no free will.
3 In your answers you talk a lot about the I. When looking happens, can you SEE that this I isn't here, never was here and never will be here? Is this a experiential "knowing"?
the idea of "i" is created with thoughts. it was seen, so yes that experiential knowing exists - "i" is not here, never was and never will be. however, your phrase "when looking happens" is important because looking has not been happening much since we stopped having a daily conversation. inertia and habit reign often and perhaps sometimes in the fray of Life the untruth of "i" is forgotten.
4 without an I, what is seen as real right now?
this day is gorgeous.
Diana Martínez ok, now some guides are reading your answers, they got questions for you.
1 "in the past few days i have been very much stuck in the "i" and even though i knew it there was nothing that could be done to change that"
-What do you mean by being "stuck in the "i""?
-Is there still any desire to become self-less, ego-less or unstuck? Look deeply
2 In your reply to #5. you deny that there is free will ("we don't" and "if i had control of my life". Is there a powerless I somewhere? Explain more about the illusion of free will and how it happens.+
3 In your answers you talk a lot about the I. When looking happens, can you SEE that this I isn't here, never was here and never will be here? Is this a experiential "knowing"?
4 without an I, what is seen as real right now?
Denise Ra 1 "in the past few days i have been very much stuck in the "i" and even though i knew it there was nothing that could be done to change that"
-What do you mean by being "stuck in the "i""?
-Is there still any desire to become self-less, ego-less or unstuck? Look deeply
it is good enough to know that there is a spectrum from totally not having a clue that the "i" does not exist to that free-floating feeling that was experienced when Seeing happened. the non-existence of the "i" has been seen through so total cluelessness will not be a permanent state again hopefully, but stuff pushes my buttons and the ego flares big and bright sometimes- stuck (or lost) in the "i". it is good enough to just know that this also is not a permanent state.
2 In your reply to #5. you deny that there is free will ("we don't" and "if i had control of my life". Is there a powerless I somewhere? Explain more about the illusion of free will and how it happens.+
it is possible that i have recently believed in a powerless i but the truth is that the "i" is powerless because it does not exist.
the "i" is not real and so cannot be in charge of "our lives". what is real is that thoughts, emotions and actions arise from All-That-Is. there is no controlling All-That-Is so there is no free will.
3 In your answers you talk a lot about the I. When looking happens, can you SEE that this I isn't here, never was here and never will be here? Is this a experiential "knowing"?
the idea of "i" is created with thoughts. it was seen, so yes that experiential knowing exists - "i" is not here, never was and never will be. however, your phrase "when looking happens" is important because looking has not been happening much since we stopped having a daily conversation. inertia and habit reign often and perhaps sometimes in the fray of Life the untruth of "i" is forgotten.
4 without an I, what is seen as real right now?
this day is gorgeous.
Pienso y luego (creo que) existo.
I think, therefore (i believe that) i am.
I think, therefore (i believe that) i am.
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