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Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:23 pm
by Lubo
Hi,
There is no self. Nothing is found.
Gman, lie down on the bed, close your eyes and let your body move slowly. Don't listen to the "should" voice.
Notice that there is no one doesn't mean that there is nothing.
Notice the energy that appears as body movement. Notice, this big thing here wich is moving, this big living existence?
Do this for 20 min, this is direct experience of primal wild energy.
Then open your eyes and notice.
Is there anything that is not the great This?
Love
Lubo
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:34 pm
by Gman
Hi Lubo,
lie down on the bed, close your eyes and let your body move slowly
I did as requested a couple of times
First time - Breath was breathing, ears were just hearing, feeling was feeling except my legs, arms, core body started feeling heavy , like weight was on top of them. Then, the body disappeared. Very enjoyable.
Second time - I got to the heavy feeling ,but body did not disappear
Enjoy,
Gman
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:43 am
by Lubo
Hi Gman,
This is a very powerful exercise , you can do it every day, if you want of course.
Notice with closed eyes who or what moves the body?
Are there two things body + someone who moves it or the body is label for this movement?
Image of a Self moves body or This is moving?
Are you this image of a self?
Second time - I got to the heavy feeling ,but body did not disappear
How do you feel now?
Notice this image of a separate entity is coming with emotions and story maybe?
Without them what is here?
Love
Lubo
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:42 pm
by Gman
Hi Lubo,
How do you feel now?
In day to day life, I can lose the I for a moment. But it comes back
Notice this image of a separate entity is coming with emotions and story maybe?
There can be a story /emotions that drag me back to an I.
Without them what is here?
Peace - no suffering
Just wish I could stay in the "Peace - no suffering" longer :)
Enjoy,
Gman
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:12 pm
by Lubo
Hi Gman,
Notice this image of a separate entity is coming with emotions and story maybe?
There can be a story /emotions that drag me back to an I.
Without them what is here?
Peace - no suffering
Notice if you don't identify with the story/emotions, is there something else drags you back?
Just wish I could stay in the "Peace - no suffering" longer :)
Notice, without identifying with someone who is suffering, what is here?
Love,
Lubo
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:34 pm
by Gman
Notice if you don't identify with the story/emotions, is there something else drags you back?
No, there is nothing the drag me back
Notice, without identifying with someone who is suffering, what is here?
Just life happening....no suffering :)
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:41 am
by Lubo
Just life happening....no suffering :)
Nice :)
Now notice is there a doer, is there responsibility in this what is happening by itself?
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:54 pm
by Gman
Hi Lubo,
I have been away from internet for a few days
Now notice is there a doer, is there responsibility in this what is happening by itself?
there is no doer - life just happens without any input.
Enjoy,
Gman
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:08 pm
by Lubo
Hi Gman,
It sounds that you finish your investigation?
Does the seeking end?
Did you found what you were looking for?
How do you feel in every day life?
Love,
Lubo
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 6:00 pm
by Gman
Hi Lubo,
It sounds that you finish your investigation?
Yes
Does the seeking end?
When I can get to the no I, it does
Did you found what you were looking for?
I was looking for nothing and found it
How do you feel in every day life?
Most of the time. At times something pulls me out of peace
Enjoy,
Gman
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 6:59 pm
by Lubo
Hi Gman,
Thanks for the reply
I would love to walk with you little bit more, if you are ok?
When I can get to the no I, it does
Please describe what you point with "I" and with "no I", What is happening in the first and in the second ?
Most of the time. At times something pulls me out of peace
Share what pulls you usually?
Much love
Lubo
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:42 pm
by Gman
Hi Ludo
Please describe what you point with "I" and with "no I", What is happening in the first and in the second ?
The "I" has thoughts , emotions, and labels
The no "I" is just awareness. No suffering. Life just happens.
Share what pulls you usually?
I have tried to figure out what does it. I cant identify what pulls me back to "I".
Enjoy,
Gman
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:30 am
by Lubo
Hi Gman,
The "I" has thoughts , emotions, and labels
So, there is still an I ?
How something which doesn't exist still have thoughts , emotions, and labels?
What Santa has?
Love
Lubo
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:05 pm
by Gman
So, there is still an I ?
Rarely. When I appears, I ask who is talking - nobody :)
How something which doesn't exist still have thoughts , emotions, and labels?
It can not
What Santa has?
keeps me at no I :)
Re: Freedom from suffering
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:14 pm
by Lubo
Ok. Gman,
There is no I , what is here then?
How things happen?