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Yes, it still feels like there is. Do you still feel like there is? Even though you know there isn't?It Totally feels like There's someone Seeing This However IT'S Just Seeing !!!
I'm gonna work with this for a bit longer, if that's ok?So Drop All Knowledge & See How Everything Always IS !?! ?!? !!!
HahahaYes, it still feels like there is. Do you still feel like there is? Even though you know there isn't?It Totally feels like There's someone Seeing This However IT'S Just Seeing !!!
I'm gonna work with this for a bit longer, if that's ok?So Drop All Knowledge & See How Everything Always IS !?! ?!? !!!
With gratitude,
Jade
oh my Yes Yes, it's seen through but Yes a Someone Totally plays out Here too Lol !!! 
Yes, it's seen through but Yes a Someone Totally plays out Here too
I'm not sure I know how to drop all knowledge! In the way I can't stop the thoughts, I'm not sure I can drop the knowledge? There is typically a lot of thinking happening, so I try sitting and just observing the thoughts along with sensations, usually when I have some time in the morning and in the evening. Otherwise during the day, when I catch myself fully attached to whatever story that is playing out, I try to take a step back and look at it from outside the box.And Yes to working on dropping All Knowledge get back to me when You can
Hi ok Will talk more about this tomorrow around 3 pm my time or at 5 with another client !?!Hi!
Yes, it's seen through but Yes a Someone Totally plays out Here tooI'm not sure I know how to drop all knowledge! In the way I can't stop the thoughts, I'm not sure I can drop the knowledge? There is typically a lot of thinking happening, so I try sitting and just observing the thoughts along with sensations, usually when I have some time in the morning and in the evening. Otherwise during the day, when I catch myself fully attached to whatever story that is playing out, I try to take a step back and look at it from outside the box.And Yes to working on dropping All Knowledge get back to me when You can
All the best,
Jade
Hi Jade Apologies for the Late Reply & i Really Enjoyed Our Session & Appreciate You letting me Be Apart of Your Journey !!!Hi ok Will talk more about this tomorrow around 3 pm my time or at 5 with another client !?!Hi!
Yes, it's seen through but Yes a Someone Totally plays out Here tooI'm not sure I know how to drop all knowledge! In the way I can't stop the thoughts, I'm not sure I can drop the knowledge? There is typically a lot of thinking happening, so I try sitting and just observing the thoughts along with sensations, usually when I have some time in the morning and in the evening. Otherwise during the day, when I catch myself fully attached to whatever story that is playing out, I try to take a step back and look at it from outside the box.And Yes to working on dropping All Knowledge get back to me when You can
All the best,
Jade
I'd have to ask the other client if that's Ok with Him !?! Ok let me know & We can Video chat tomorrow ??? Sending much Love & Appreciation for You Stafford
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Oops The Questions are BelowHi Jade Apologies for the Late Reply & i Really Enjoyed Our Session & Appreciate You letting me Be Apart of Your Journey !!!Hi ok Will talk more about this tomorrow around 3 pm my time or at 5 with another client !?!Hi!
I'm not sure I know how to drop all knowledge! In the way I can't stop the thoughts, I'm not sure I can drop the knowledge? There is typically a lot of thinking happening, so I try sitting and just observing the thoughts along with sensations, usually when I have some time in the morning and in the evening. Otherwise during the day, when I catch myself fully attached to whatever story that is playing out, I try to take a step back and look at it from outside the box.
All the best,
Jade
I'd have to ask the other client if that's Ok with Him !?! Ok let me know & We can Video chat tomorrow ??? Sending much Love & Appreciation for You Stafford
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Below are the final Question don't worry if it Seems intellectual...!!!
Just Answer from the Direct Experience That's Seen...!!!
When You're finished I'll send Your Questions to the end of conversation thread where the Confirmation Team looks to See if Everything Clear !?! Then if there's nothing to clear up they send a link to the Facebook After care group...!!!
The Questions are Below. Take Your Time & We'll talk when You're done with them.
Sending much Love Stafford
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Ok on this Last Question. Feelings or not Who is Really Working on What ???1. No and no. I could not find a self/me/I in the thoughts, feelings or the body. The thoughts, feelings, and sensations just happen and there is nothing/no one controlling any of it. There couldn’t have ever been any separate entity because there is only direct experience of right now.
2. The illusion of separate self is this amalgamation of thoughts, emotions and attachment to the body that create this very convincing story. It is all these automatic processes that form this character that we mistakenly identify with and believe to be separate and unique. I’m not sure when this starts. I’m not sure if I can even explain in detail how it works, there is no stopping or controlling it. When I look it as if I can see all of these different and random puzzle pieces and then see the thoughts that use those pieces to create a puzzle - aka this character of me.
3. It feels a bit anticlimactic. I was hearing the same concepts prior to this dialogue, but what was different was the use of direct experience to demonstrate the validity of what the concepts were trying to point to. Most of the time everything feels the same, but there are some small changes beginning to happen. One difference over the past few days includes having acceptance of having no control and that everything happens the only way it can. Another difference is there are more frequent moments of recognizing that, for instance, acknowledging anxiety is happening and there is nothing that needs to be done about it. There is less panic about making it stop, because a) it can’t be stopped and b) it doesn’t matter because it isn’t happening to anyone anyway.
4. There isn’t one moment that could be identified as walking through the gateless gate per se. It was more of a series of questions that involved looking and then acknowledging that there didn’t exist any other answers. There is a small, but persistent worry that I didn’t have an “ah ha” moment, and that I need to keep looking to be sure that I have really seen.
5. Decision, intention, free will, choice and control are all part of illusion and the stories that go along with it. They don’t exist. There is only this moment, so how could one have any control over a future that doesn’t exist? Future is a make believe idea. I do not know what makes things happen, life makes things happen! I don’t know how it works, but it does. There is no me to be responsible for anything.
6. There is this nagging feeling that I haven’t actually “seen” yet, but I am working on accepting that as part of the false self illusion. Thank you to my guide and to the entire community, grateful to you all and for the resources that you have made available.
Hi Jade !!!Ok on this Last Question. Feelings or not Who is Really Working on What ???1. No and no. I could not find a self/me/I in the thoughts, feelings or the body. The thoughts, feelings, and sensations just happen and there is nothing/no one controlling any of it. There couldn’t have ever been any separate entity because there is only direct experience of right now.
2. The illusion of separate self is this amalgamation of thoughts, emotions and attachment to the body that create this very convincing story. It is all these automatic processes that form this character that we mistakenly identify with and believe to be separate and unique. I’m not sure when this starts. I’m not sure if I can even explain in detail how it works, there is no stopping or controlling it. When I look it as if I can see all of these different and random puzzle pieces and then see the thoughts that use those pieces to create a puzzle - aka this character of me.
3. It feels a bit anticlimactic. I was hearing the same concepts prior to this dialogue, but what was different was the use of direct experience to demonstrate the validity of what the concepts were trying to point to. Most of the time everything feels the same, but there are some small changes beginning to happen. One difference over the past few days includes having acceptance of having no control and that everything happens the only way it can. Another difference is there are more frequent moments of recognizing that, for instance, acknowledging anxiety is happening and there is nothing that needs to be done about it. There is less panic about making it stop, because a) it can’t be stopped and b) it doesn’t matter because it isn’t happening to anyone anyway.
4. There isn’t one moment that could be identified as walking through the gateless gate per se. It was more of a series of questions that involved looking and then acknowledging that there didn’t exist any other answers. There is a small, but persistent worry that I didn’t have an “ah ha” moment, and that I need to keep looking to be sure that I have really seen.
5. Decision, intention, free will, choice and control are all part of illusion and the stories that go along with it. They don’t exist. There is only this moment, so how could one have any control over a future that doesn’t exist? Future is a make believe idea. I do not know what makes things happen, life makes things happen! I don’t know how it works, but it does. There is no me to be responsible for anything.
6. There is this nagging feeling that I haven’t actually “seen” yet, but I am working on accepting that as part of the false self illusion. Thank you to my guide and to the entire community, grateful to you all and for the resources that you have made available.
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Very Beautiful Welcome Home !!!Hello again!
Yes, "I" know that there is no one to work on anything, and nothing needs to be worked on. And that feelings happening have no meaning, they just do their thing - so no, they can't be trusted. But I suppose what I'm trying to say is that the feelings still feel sticky? Or rather that they still have something to stick to...
Everything is perfect the way it is, so it doesn't matter what is seen or not seen. All there is awareness, so it is seeing what is seen or not seen.
Sincerely,
Jade
Very Beautiful Welcome Home !!!Hello again!
Yes, "I" know that there is no one to work on anything, and nothing needs to be worked on. And that feelings happening have no meaning, they just do their thing - so no, they can't be trusted. But I suppose what I'm trying to say is that the feelings still feel sticky? Or rather that they still have something to stick to...
Everything is perfect the way it is, so it doesn't matter what is seen or not seen. All there is awareness, so it is seeing what is seen or not seen.
Sincerely,
Jade
I sent This to the Confirmation Team & they should be getting back with You through Your Private Massage & or email or me if more Guidance is needed But I Highly doubt that !!!
Anyhow We'll just go with the flow Lol
So it was Wonderful Guiding You & if anything comes up Please don't Hesitate to get a hold of me & or Anyone on the Forum !!!
Sending much Appreciation & Love Yours Truly
Stafford ;~} "=" { ~;
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Hi Jade so the confermation team suggest We need more work !!!Hi Stafford,
Okay, sounds good. Very grateful for your guidance. Thank you again!
Jade