The Gate

Hi Gerd,

Yes, I can notice that me is only in thought/story. There is still suffering.

Do you distinguish between what is real and what is not?

I was also thinking, when I realize that there is no ‘I’ the ‘I’ will dissolve. And as ‘I’ doesn’t dissolve I thought my realization is wrong or not enough….

What goes away goes away, what is taken away is taken away, what is gone is gone. Nothing changes because the illusion does not notice that it is seen through it.

Gerd, If suffering is intense, I highly recommend this event with Ilona, deep looking helps with this.
https://www.facebook.com/markedeternal/ ... 714695309/

love
lubo

Hi Lubo,

Do you distinguish between what is real and what is not?

Thought/story is real, the content of thought/story is fiction. Suffering is thought and feeling. Feeling is real.

Nothing changes because the illusion does not notice that it is seen through it.

That’s good, thank you.

I highly recommend this event with Ilona, deep looking helps with this.

Yes, I will do this. Thank you for the information.

Thank You
Gerd

Hi Gerd,
Can you check this again:

Thought/story is real, the content of thought/story is fiction. Suffering is thought and feeling. Feeling is real.

What is real and what is fiction?
Notice - Apart from thoughts, is there someone for whom the story is important?

Love
lubo

Hi Gerd,

how's it looking going on?
Are you still with me?

lubo

Hi Lubo,

Are you still with me?

Sorry for not answering! Yes, I am still with You!

What is real and what is fiction?

Thought itself is real but the content of the thought is fiction. If suffering is thought and feeling, the content of thought is fiction and the feeling itself is real. I was listening to the online event last Sunday (unfortunately only for 1 hour) and as I understood there are thoughts and feelings and all you can do is to accept them. You cannot influence thoughts and feelings. You cannot make them disappear.

Notice - Apart from thoughts, is there someone for whom the story is important?

No, the story is not important for anyone else.

Thank You,
Gerd

Hi Gerd,
I'm glad that you are here :)
I think I saw you at the meeting with Ilona.

...and as I understood there are thoughts and feelings and all you can do is to accept them. You cannot influence thoughts and feelings. You cannot make them disappear.

YES! The thoughts come to show that there is a story that is too scary to be accepted and verified to be unreal.

Notice - Apart from thoughts, is there someone for whom the story is important?

No, the story is not important for anyone else

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So, can you find in reality someone or something that is in trouble with thoughts?

Are the thoughts separate from life happening?
Can they know that there is someone who is separate from life? And who is in danger and must be protected?
What is noticed?

Love
lubo

Hi Lubo,

So, can you find in reality someone or something that is in trouble with thoughts?

No, there is no one and nothing that is in trouble with thoughts.

Are the thoughts separate from life happening?

Yes, thoughts are just happening independent from life.

Can they know that there is someone who is separate from life?

No, thoughts cannot know this.

And who is in danger and must be protected?

Nobody is in danger and nobody must be protected.

What is noticed?

Despite knowing all this there are still thoughts and feelings.

Thank You
Gerd

Hi Gerd,
Thanks for the replay.

Are the thoughts separate from life happening?

Yes, thoughts are just happening independent from life

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Is it possible to find thoughts outside of life? Where this place will be?

Love
lubo

Hi Lubo,

Is it possible to find thoughts outside of life? Where this place will be?

Ok., I understand now! No, thoughts are not happening outside of life.

Thank You
Gerd

Hi Gerd,

Yes, thank you!
Let's clarify what does the word "life" point to:

This, everything which happens: Could it be in 10 years?

l.

Hi Lubo,

Let's clarify what does the word "life" point to:

‘Life’ points to everything that is experienced through the 5 senses and thoughts.

This, everything which happens: Could it be in 10 years?

’10 years’ is the content of a thought and so it is a fiction.

Wish You a good weekend
Gerd

Hi Gerd,

This, everything which happens: Could it be in 10 years?

’10 years’ is the content of a thought and so it is a fiction

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Yes. It is a thought.
The thoughts point to something that not exist - Santa, me, story about me etc .
but also they point to something that is here: table - colour, music - sound ..., Is it clear?

So, check again what this question points to? No thought is needed to recognise the answer.
This, everything which happens: Could it be in 10 years?

What is noticed in this very moment?

l.

Hi Lubo,

but also they point to something that is here: table - colour, music - sound ..., Is it clear?

All there is is the experience of the 5 senses and thought.

This, everything which happens: Could it be in 10 years?

Everything which happens happens now. So it cannot be in 10 years (which is a thought).

Gerd

Hi Gerd,

OK. Every thing what Is/life itself -there thoughts arise from the same Every thing what Is/life itself, can you see this?

Is there someone or something that make what is/life itself happen? or its happening automatically?
What about the thoughts ?
Notice, all day is there something which is not happening automatically?

Is there something separate from what is/life itself? Something like an egg out of the box, out of the what is?
Is there a me in life? or out of life?

l.

Hi Lubo,

OK. Every thing what Is/life itself -there thoughts arise from the same Every thing what Is/life itself, can you see this?

Ok., I can see that also thoughts arise from the Every thing.

Is there someone or something that make what is/life itself happen? or its happening automatically?

No one and No thing makes life happen. Life is happening by itself.

What about the thoughts ?

Also thoughts happen by themselves in the surrounding of life itself.

Notice, all day is there something which is not happening automatically?

Yes, I can notice that everything is happening automatically.

Is there something separate from what is/life itself? Something like an egg out of the box, out of the what is?

Nothing is separate from life.

Is there a me in life? or out of life?

The ‘me’ is in life.

Thank You
Gerd