Standing in the light

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Bananafish » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:19 pm

I can control what I say and do but I have no idea what someone else will say or do.

Where, when, and what is that "you" that controls what you say?
Please try saying something, and observe the process: then report what you
noticed.

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Reality1111 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:41 pm

I can control what I say and do but I have no idea what someone else will say or do.

Where, when, and what is that "you" that controls what you say?
Please try saying something, and observe the process: then report what you
noticed.
Most of the time I don't control what I say. Then there are times when I plan what to say which increases the likelihood that I will say certain things.

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Bananafish » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:23 pm

Most of the time I don't control what I say. Then there are times when I plan what to say which increases the likelihood that I will say certain things.

Again, where, when and what is the one that plans what to say?

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Reality1111 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:38 pm

Most of the time I don't control what I say. Then there are times when I plan what to say which increases the likelihood that I will say certain things.

Again, where, when and what is the one that plans what to say?
It's really hard to tell and I suspect there is nothing there. I believe there is nothing there. Sometimes I know nothing is there but its fleeting.

I am also reading the book Liberation Unleashed. I am having waves of insight/realization. I have very good feelings sometimes intensely good feelings and in a way I feel scared that I am losing my mind. So I guess I wonder how to function normally if I have no control. It seems that life happens in waves. Is my mood going to peak and then crash?

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Bananafish » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:54 pm

Hi. :) It sounds like you are trying to think over this issue, which
leads to taking this as something that brings "good feelings" (which is not bad but not essential).

I suspect that what you call insight / realization are ideas about realization.

Would you be able to discard them and look anew? Otherwise, this dialogue might lose
most of its effectiveness, as you will keep comparing this and what you read ... an obvious
form of dualism.

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Reality1111 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:58 pm

Hi. :) It sounds like you are trying to think over this issue, which
leads to taking this as something that brings "good feelings" (which is not bad but not essential).

I suspect that what you call insight / realization are ideas about realization.

Would you be able to discard them and look anew? Otherwise, this dialogue might lose
most of its effectiveness, as you will keep comparing this and what you read ... an obvious
form of dualism.
Hi Kento,
I am more than willing to take a fresh look at this.
Thanks,
Jenny

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Bananafish » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:10 pm

Thanks Jenny. :)

Now, again, where, when and what is the one that plans what to say?
Could you actually try planning something and look for the one that plans?

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Reality1111 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:15 pm

Thanks Jenny. :)

Now, again, where, when and what is the one that plans what to say?
Could you actually try planning something and look for the one that plans?
The planning is like a spark of intention that leads to thoughts. It happens a split moment before the thoughts begin. Planning happens. It seems like there is an intention there. It exists in the ether.

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Bananafish » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:18 pm

How is intention perceived?

In the form of thought? Color? Sensation? Smell? Sound?
Or else?

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Reality1111 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:55 pm

How is intention perceived?

In the form of thought? Color? Sensation? Smell? Sound?
Or else?
I cannot perceive intention. There is no color, sensation, smell, or sound or other.

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Bananafish » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:56 pm

What is intention?

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Reality1111 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:58 pm

What is intention?
Intention is a thought

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Bananafish » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:12 pm

Where, when and what is the one that thinks that thought?

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Reality1111 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:37 pm

Where, when and what is the one that thinks that thought?
The thought happens in the here and now. Seems like there is an entity that witnesses the thoughts. Like the thoughts are occurring and being comprehended and sometimes action is taken. Thinking nothing is here seems to equate to nothing matters.

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Re: Standing in the light

Postby Bananafish » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:13 pm

Seems like there is an entity that witnesses the thoughts.


How do you perceive that entity?


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