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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby StaffordJR » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:48 am

("""""These just make me laugh with the impossibility of making progress. It’s like going on a journey with an invisible map and a destination that’s only visible when you arrive!
I realise “I”’m not going to work it out but ‘i’ has assumed that awareness would have the knowledge that it was aware. And is it not helpful to calm the mind to have less distraction, to allow awareness a better chance of just seeing? Unless its all just a Koan to beat your head against until you give up and it’s only then you see?!
Laughing, but carrying on looking! """""")

Yes Yes Yes Andy That's & Great KOAN
In itself Loving This & Apologies i have no Real time & only can fit in what I can when I can Lol & Really Appreciate Your Patience & Kindness & Honest Hard Work, Great Looking !!!

("""""So, little steps with night time thought watching.
Thinking happens.
Thinking is not in control of itself. I’m not sure if it’s in control of anything, but I can think about how I am going to move and that influences the movement, so there must be an interaction. It’s not just being aware of what I’ve just done. Something creates the brain messages to walk, and that is thinking, even if not fully conscious.
The content of thinking is a guess, an approximation, trying to build a theory or a representation, or sometimes a story / fantasy, that is more or less accurate and more or less useful. So it might usefully think up the laws of physics, or it might unhelpfully create an anxiety provoking fiction about how other people think of me. I is a story, one that might usefully produce aspiration, but one that causes anxiety for me about not being in control, about not being able to be something I am not. If that makes sense?

So this is my tentative / weak seeing this morning. """""")

OMG Yes Yes Yes my Friend in This Illusion, The Supposed me is seemingly Interacting influenced Co _Created by ME ( Mystical Enigma) Extra ¿ ? ¿/! ¡ !
And Yes Went There Physics Quantum Theory & Conscious Science & Totally had a Mental Breakdown Break Through Before LU !!! Brother That's Why We're Here I Didn't Not have Anyone I could Turn Too & You Do That's The Difference !!! You're in Loving Hands I Go Through Everything I Guide Clients Through & if I can't & a client need different Point of View We can find Another Guide No Problems Safe Place My Friend !!! ImageImageImageImageImageImageImageImageImageImage

Ok first Scientific Point, According to Optometrist Biology of Our Eyes We See in at The Back of Our Skulls Not Out, So What's Actually Seen......... ? ¿ ?
Conscious Science Experiment They( I wish I Remembered Who ) However the study was about when an individual was actually conscious of Visual Stimuli & Choice & turns out The Brain Responds 6 Seconds before the actual So Called Personal Choice !?!
Apologies my Friend got Lost in Teaching & This Totally can't Be Taught So Let's get back Too Guiding You safely Through This !!!
True Question Do You Remember Your Birth & was that important Before Your Birth & Will This Matter After Death ??? / !!!
Ok my Friend Let's stop Here & Know This is Just Seeing Actuality What's Happening Nothing No Thing Too Loose accept The Illusion Itself & It's Already The Case so Anxiety has No Ground too Stand On, Look at Deep Sleep Who's There to Be Anxious ?!? /!?!

Always Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby Andyjones » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:03 pm

I have asked for my previous posting to be removed. My sense of humour can be too dry and too close to the bone, for which I apologize.
I feel I need more direction. I already have the incomprehension of Koans! I have most of the theory, just don’t know how to see or to look / what to look at.
With respect,
Andy

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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby StaffordJR » Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:32 am


I have asked for my previous posting to be removed. My sense of humour can be too dry and too close to the bone, for which I apologize.
I feel I need more direction. I already have the incomprehension of Koans! I have most of the theory, just don’t know how to see or to look / what to look at.
With respect,
Andy
Hi Andy so Apologize I haven't been able too get on this site something about the Server, I think it's fixed Hopefully Lol ???
Ok my Dear Friend No Problems on Your Post it was Great & Actually wanted too reply too the it & Say Yes definitely out of my mind Because it was never my Mind.......!!!!
Ok Andy This is How I'm asking You too Look....!!!! Drop All Your Knowledge Everything You Know by Words. Then there is still Knowing use that Wordless Knowing too Look & See, are You Really Doing anything & could it possibly be a Empty Natural Happening !!! /???
Ok my Friend Please let me Know Dry Humor & All what This Brings up !!!
I Think the Server is fixed however if I don't answer right away it's probably the Internet site & i will be back as soon as it's fixed again !!!
Thanks for Your Patience & Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford


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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby Andyjones » Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:18 am

Whether or not snow ever lands in the wrong place, do I need to seek out a new guide?
Andy

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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby Andyjones » Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:12 pm

Apologies I hadn’t received your last message. I shall get back to looking and will get back to you.
Andy

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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby StaffordJR » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:13 pm

Apologies I hadn’t received your last message. I shall get back to looking and will get back to you.
Andy
Thank You Andy & That's Actually my Favorite KOAN, Snow Doesn't Land in the Wrong Place, Loving IT !!!
So it Looks like the Server is fixed for Now Hopefully Lol !?!
I just wanted to let You know i Love Appreciate & Honor Guiding You & my Feelings Were never Hurt & Not sensitive, just always Looking Deeper & I Know You're Doing The same & if You do Ever need a Different Guide that's always possible my Feelings won't Be Hurt !?! Talk soon & Always Sending much Love Yours Truly Stafford ImageImageImageImageImageImage


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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby Andyjones » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:46 pm

(“” wb I'm asking You too Look....!!!! Drop All Your Knowledge Everything You Know by Words. Then there is still Knowing use that Wordless Knowing too Look & See, are You Really Doing anything & could it possibly be a Empty Natural Happening !!! /???“)

I like the wordless Looking, it avoids the analyzing that I am prone to. I have been looking at whatever comes up as “Me”. It’s usually a feeling, mostly physical in my abdomen, chest, eyes, sometimes it’s feels like a mental feeling of familiarity of “Self”. I’m looking quietly and usually the physical sensation evaporates or thins. The mental feeling of familiarity fades less easily. I’m finding it difficult to ask if I am really doing anything / is it empty happening because that feels as though it is using “Me” to ask the question / analyze. I can do that reflection more easily with physical movement than with thinking, when movement doesn’t need “My” involvement.
Thank you for your ongoing thoughts and guidance.
Andy

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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby StaffordJR » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:19 am

Quote="Andyjones"](“” wb I'm asking You too Look....!!!! Drop All Your Knowledge Everything You Know by Words. Then there is still Knowing use that Wordless Knowing too Look & See, are You Really Doing anything & could it possibly be a Empty Natural Happening !!! /???“)

I like the wordless Looking, it avoids the analyzing that I am prone to. I have been looking at whatever comes up as “Me”. It’s usually a feeling, mostly physical in my abdomen, chest, eyes, sometimes it’s feels like a mental feeling of familiarity of “Self”. I’m looking quietly and usually the physical sensation evaporates or thins. The mental feeling of familiarity fades less easily. I’m finding it difficult to ask if I am really doing anything / is it empty happening because that feels as though it is using “Me” to ask the question / analyze. I can do that reflection more easily with physical movement than with thinking, when movement doesn’t need “My” involvement.
Thank you for your ongoing thoughts and guidance.
Andy[/quote]

Ok Great Andy & You're Welcome it's my Pleasure Guiding You !!!
Now since it's Easier for You to Reflect with Physical movement & knowing it doesn't need Your involvement, nothing more to point out there !!! And Yes it appears to ME (Mysterious Entity) like the happen is creating a ME (Mental Enigma) to answer Your question ??? /!!! It's an incredible Mystery !!! /???
So Then let's work on mental familiarity ?!? While doing whatever You do throughout the day don't think about anything !!! If it's Your Mind, Wouldn't You be able too turn it on or off & or Think Exactly what You want when You want ?!? Ok Stopping here to make sure everything is clear !?!
Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby Andyjones » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:57 am

Thank you. I shall enjoy trying not to think!

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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby Andyjones » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:30 pm

Sorry, late as busy day. On holiday with 9 others, chauffeur, planner, trying to finish some work, my day to cook, 2 extra guests at last minute (I hate cooking!) and row with my wife. Yesterday looking was more productive and I had an interesting moment in the morning (lying awake) thinking that ‘I’ was being hunted down into a corner and was effectively committing suicide. And there was a moment of fear.
So tomorrow hopefully I will have a better day!
Andy

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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby StaffordJR » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:12 am


Sorry, late as busy day. On holiday with 9 others, chauffeur, planner, trying to finish some work, my day to cook, 2 extra guests at last minute (I hate cooking!) and row with my wife. Yesterday looking was more productive and I had an interesting moment in the morning (lying awake) thinking that ‘I’ was being hunted down into a corner and was effectively committing suicide. And there was a moment of fear.
So tomorrow hopefully I will have a better day!
Andy
Hi Andy No Problems my Friend & Please Enjoy Yourself !!! We have as Long as it Takes no rush !!!
Good Looking though with everything going on & Please Know Your the thought You had is very common & it's kinda like that but not at the same time ?!? Had a similar situation happen & Really Everything Changed & Yet Nothing. My so called personality got stronger it seemed, however it wasn't That Either ?!? Not that not that Lol
You'll Be OK Though because it's already Happening in That Way Creating as it Were a You & Me , The Event Horizon Everything Seen Happening Here Now & No Thing Happening !!! Ok my Friend in This Illusion take care & talk when You're ready !?! Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter even Yours Truly Stafford ImageImageImageImageImageImage

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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby StaffordJR » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:02 am


Sorry, late as busy day. On holiday with 9 others, chauffeur, planner, trying to finish some work, my day to cook, 2 extra guests at last minute (I hate cooking!) and row with my wife. Yesterday looking was more productive and I had an interesting moment in the morning (lying awake) thinking that ‘I’ was being hunted down into a corner and was effectively committing suicide. And there was a moment of fear.
So tomorrow hopefully I will have a better day!
Andy
Hi Andy No Problems my Friend & Please Enjoy Yourself !!! We have as Long as it Takes no rush !!!
Good Looking though with everything going on & Please Know Your the thought You had is very common & it's kinda like that but not at the same time ?!? Had a similar situation happen & Really Everything Changed & Yet Nothing. My so called personality got stronger it seemed, however it wasn't That Either ?!? Not that not that Lol
You'll Be OK Though because it's already Happening in That Way Creating as it Were a You & Me , The Event Horizon Everything Seen Happening Here Now & No Thing Happening !!! Ok my Friend in This Illusion take care & talk when You're ready !?! Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter even Yours Truly Stafford ImageImageImageImageImageImage

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Apologies had a typo in there meant to say Your ok the Thought You had is common & its kinda like suicide however not That Not That Lol Anyhow I think You understand, talk later & Enjoy Your Vacation Send much Love Stafford ImageImageImageImageImageImage

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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby Andyjones » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:29 pm

Thank you. A better day today!
I am identifying with thoughts less, seeing more that are not Me. I am finding less evidence of self- it feels to be becoming more transparent. There is more of a deep underlying feeling of I than a strong I in control.
The control issue is difficult. I think I am becoming more neutral on this. How could I know if I was really in control or if it is illusion?!
I think the route I will pursue is looking at the evidence for Me when I experience it. I read In the LU literature I think about looking beyond the underlying sense of I? Any thoughts to help me understand how that is done?
Andy

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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby StaffordJR » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:30 am


Thank you. A better day today!
I am identifying with thoughts less, seeing more that are not Me. I am finding less evidence of self- it feels to be becoming more transparent. There is more of a deep underlying feeling of I than a strong I in control.
The control issue is difficult. I think I am becoming more neutral on this. How could I know if I was really in control or if it is illusion?!
I think the route I will pursue is looking at the evidence for Me when I experience it. I read In the LU literature I think about looking beyond the underlying sense of I? Any thoughts to help me understand how that is done?
Andy
Great Work Andy & for me there's no control Lol !!! It's was seen through by seeing how the senses absolutely run on their own !?! /?!?
What could I be doing Then except Noticing & Imagining what this & that was Lol !!!
Then when coming here to LU & Ilona asked me what I need to do too Be, there was no Question....
Nothing needed to be done to exist & I so to speak was cooked !!! Lol
However Being with the Heart & or the I am feeling, that's Looking beyond I .......!!! The more time You spend with something the more You Know it & See through the Illusion of IT !?!/?!? I Hope That made sense ?!?
Talk soon & Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford ImageImageImageImageImageImage

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Re: Dakini seeker

Postby Andyjones » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:06 pm

(“”for me there's no control Lol !!! It's was seen through by seeing how the senses absolutely run on their own !?! /?!?“”)
I understand this, from watching my lack of control over spontaneous thoughts, so maybe need to keep looking here too.
I had another early hours of the morning experience, apparently with a merging of my awareness / observer mind with the I mind. It felt like an integration transformation because I didn’t force myself into it and the mind felt very spacious and quiet / happy. But I woke up later as normal!
Today again the sense of I is an underlying feeling that is difficult to get a close look at, so it feels forced when I try to explore, with too much Me seeking, if that makes sense.

I have been thinking about my expectations today too. The Gateless Gatecrashers book makes it appear that the process is miraculously simple, which It always seems unlikely would be the case. What if these people were at the right place to make the breakthrough and I am not? I don’t want you to commit to 10 years of reading my notes! I do feel as though things are shifting but vary in my confidence as to whether the breakthrough seeing will occur for me, or at least any time soon. I am intent on carrying on, but don’t want to burden you. Please don’t give me just a polite response!
Andy


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