Being in awareness

[StaffordJR]

Hi Sara my Dear Friend Love Your Reply !!!
Please bare with me I'm Tired tonight, I do deliveries for Grub Hub & Door Dash & Being that it's the Holidays (Happy Holidays to You & Your Loved Ones by the way) it's been busy & well You Know after some Driving it whares You out a little Right Lol
So anyhow Yes no trying !?! However like You said here down below, Love That by the way, trying or effort comes by trying ? ¿ ? Ok so let's look deep into this effort or contraction ??? When pulling oneself out of the rabbit hole Lol, Who's Choosing too do that, Who's effort & or is it a automatic response to contraction, Like when the wind stops blowing !?! Ok so I feel like I'm rambling Lol not sure if this is clear, so just look into Effort & Choice & See whether automatic response or qn Actual Decision!?! Good Night & for You a Good Morning & Please let me know if this fits or in off cuz I'm tired Thanks Great Work by the way & Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

( """"" The trying, or effort, comes from trying to leave the rabbit warren and pull away to just be.""""")

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[SaraStar]

Hi Stafford ☺️

Please bare with me I'm Tired tonight, I do deliveries for Grub Hub & Door Dash & Being that it's the Holidays (Happy Holidays to You & Your Loved Ones by the way) it's been busy & well You Know after some Driving it whares You out a little

I am so with you on this 😵😴! I may not know what on earth you mean by 'grub hub' and 'door dash' but tiredness is something I totally understand!

So.... I'm not going to quote you here as it was all a bit of a muddle (😂) but this is what I think you wanted to know:

I went back to the exercise and allowed myself to fall out of focus so I could see what happens to pull me out of the rabbit warren. Well that's not so easy to explain.... in order to pull myself out, there first has to be a conscious effort to notice that 'I' have fallen into the hole and then a lot of purposeful energy to 'wake up' again and focus on sensations.

I don't know what to tell you...I think I identified that one goes back into 'I' mode in the rabbit hole so perhaps it's not 'I' pulling me out and away. But... given the obvious conscious awareness of having fallen in which then is determined to pull me out, I can't say that there is nothing or no-one doing that because there's a lot of energy to wake up, pull out and focus and in that it seems a conscious decision has been made, whether that conscious decision comes from me, or is just a random happening, I couldn't say but it seems like a hell of a lot of conscious processing to come out of nothing. So I'm a bit stuck here 🤔🤔🤔.

I hope you aren't getting run ragged Stafford 🙏. I also hope that you manage to find peaceful moments with your nearest and dearest in these coming weeks.

With love
Sara ☺️🙏✨🙏☺️

[StaffordJR]

Hi Stafford

Please bare with me I'm Tired tonight, I do deliveries for Grub Hub & Door Dash & Being that it's the Holidays (Happy Holidays to You & Your Loved Ones by the way) it's been busy & well You Know after some Driving it whares You out a little

I am so with you on this ! I may not know what on earth you mean by 'grub hub' and 'door dash' but tiredness is something I totally understand!

So.... I'm not going to quote you here as it was all a bit of a muddle () but this is what I think you wanted to know:

I went back to the exercise and allowed myself to fall out of focus so I could see what happens to pull me out of the rabbit warren. Well that's not so easy to explain.... in order to pull myself out, there first has to be a conscious effort to notice that 'I' have fallen into the hole and then a lot of purposeful energy to 'wake up' again and focus on sensations.

I don't know what to tell you...I think I identified that one goes back into 'I' mode in the rabbit hole so perhaps it's not 'I' pulling me out and away. But... given the obvious conscious awareness of having fallen in which then is determined to pull me out, I can't say that there is nothing or no-one doing that because there's a lot of energy to wake up, pull out and focus and in that it seems a conscious decision has been made, whether that conscious decision comes from me, or is just a random happening, I couldn't say but it seems like a hell of a lot of conscious processing to come out of nothing. So I'm a bit stuck here .

I hope you aren't getting run ragged Stafford . I also hope that you manage to find peaceful moments with your nearest and dearest in these coming weeks.

With love
Sara

Hi Sara,
Very Good work my Dear Friend !!! Have You ever done self inquiry ??? Just in case You don't Know. Self inquiry is taking a look at the body & mind finding Who You are ?!? Now I'm going too stop here & so You can let me know if this is making sense ???
Thanks for Your Kindness & Yes Been Busy Going to be two weeks straight working full time Basically I'm Retired but my Wife & i work a restaurant food delivery service to make ends meet Ok my Friend Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

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[SaraStar]

Hi Stafford

I hope you and your wife don't burn out in the next two weeks and that you will be able to take a bit of time for yourself🙏.

So... I'm not sure what your last message meant in terms of relating to my last post 🤔. I know about self inquiry but I don't know what you are asking me to do and how to relate it to the question posed in my last post.

I'm also not sure whether you mean that you won't be posting for two weeks. That's fine, I just need to know so I'm not checking every day to see if I have a message ☺️✨☺️.

So my return seems to have come to a halt until I know what the next work is.

I wish you calm and peace in all your rushing around 💮🌻🌸🌈💫🌌.

With love
Sara

[StaffordJR]

("""""I don't know what to tell you...I think I identified that one goes back into 'I' mode in the rabbit hole so perhaps it's not 'I' pulling me out and away. But... given the obvious conscious awareness of having fallen in which then is determined to pull me out, I can't say that there is nothing or no-one doing that because there's a lot of energy to wake up, pull out and focus and in that it seems a conscious decision has been made, whether that conscious decision comes from me, or is just a random happening, I couldn't say but it seems like a hell of a lot of conscious processing to come out of nothing. So I'm a bit stuck here . """"")

Hi Sara & Thanks So Much for Your concern for my Wife & i We're OK & We're taking off Three Days starting the 22nd so We're going to be Good,oh on those Days We can still Post !!! And no worries about posting every day while We're working, I'm totally Good with that, much Love & Appreciation for Your Patience Understanding & Kindness
As for self inquiry & how it relates to Your last Post. You mentioned about the energy of conscious awareness & decisions. Falling into the I mode extra !?!
So I totally realize it seems & appears that We're making conscious decisions, like I think, i'm noticing & I'm trying !?! So I felt self inquiry would be Great Way Too See This. And Really Really Honestly You're never going get This in our Post but only in Seeing What's Actually Happening !!! So ok I know We Know This ,however it seems We forget, We didn't Born ourselves, We had No Body Mind before getting Here & Won't again When the Body Mind Drops, So how is it We think it's running anything at ALL while Breath is Breathing US Lol ?!?
Ok my Dear Sara Hope that's more clear & let me know How You're Inquiry Gose & its even Ok if it Doesn't make sense cuz Really There isn't any Sense made out of Anything, IT Just IS, Wow Crazy Right !!!
Thanks for Being Here &
Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter
Yours Truly Stafford


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[SaraStar]

Hi dear Stafford ☺️🙏☺️

I'm so pleased you are taking care and making sure you get a break in order to recuperate 😆.

So does this mean you and I have reached the end of the road here if it's not possible to guide me through my query? That's ok, I just need to know. D'you think I'd benefit from exploring further with another guide?

I don't believe I'm completely 'done' with LU and would like to go on but I think you are telling me that we have reached an impasse with my query.

If we can't go any further I really would like you to hand me over to another guide who might be able to take me through this.

With kindest and loving thoughts
Sara ☺️🙏✨🙏☺️

[StaffordJR]

Oh my No Sara We're not Done at ALL I'm just pointing You Deeper as All & Letting You Know IT'S not in the Words it's in the Experience Directly That's All Dose that make sense Sending much Love Stafford !!!

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[SaraStar]

Hi Stafford ☺️

Yes it makes sense but I'm still at a loss as to where you want me to go from here. You've said discussing self inquiry is beyond the remit of LU yet you've said that I need to know about it and I still don't know now what it is I'm meant to be doing. It's as if the thread of the work we've been doing has been dropped.

I know that nothing happens as a result of a 'self' but where are we now in the work we are doing?

So are we going to work on the answer I gave you about dragging myself out of the rabbit hole back into a wakened state or is it just that you say I need to know about self inquiry and that's it?

I guess I'm not sure where the guidance is. I know it's about deeper looking but I don't know what's being asked of me by you, my guide. We seem to be going around in circles so I guess things aren't seeming very clear to me.

I'm so sorry that I'm not understanding what you are asking of me and where we are going - it's just all become rather unclear 🤔🤔.

Hope we can get working again as the felt experience here is of being adrift with no rudder.

Sending love
Sara 🌸✨🌸

[StaffordJR]

Hi Stafford

Yes it makes sense but I'm still at a loss as to where you want me to go from here. You've said discussing self inquiry is beyond the remit of LU yet you've said that I need to know about it and I still don't know now what it is I'm meant to be doing. It's as if the thread of the work we've been doing has been dropped.

I know that nothing happens as a result of a 'self' but where are we now in the work we are doing?

So are we going to work on the answer I gave you about dragging myself out of the rabbit hole back into a wakened state or is it just that you say I need to know about self inquiry and that's it?

I guess I'm not sure where the guidance is. I know it's about deeper looking but I don't know what's being asked of me by you, my guide. We seem to be going around in circles so I guess things aren't seeming very clear to me.

I'm so sorry that I'm not understanding what you are asking of me and where we are going - it's just all become rather unclear .

Hope we can get working again as the felt experience here is of being adrift with no rudder.

Sending love
Sara

Hi Sara my Dear Friend,
Please Forgive. I wasn't trying to confuse you at all. I really felt I was being clear in my pointing. I really feel bad but also determined too put us back in our previous felt experience !!!
So let's go from here,
(""""So are we going to work on the answer I gave you about dragging myself out of the rabbit hole back into a wakened state or is it just that you say I need to know about self inquiry and that's it?""")
So if it's OK let try this question. It points too the same thing as self inquiry !
In your direct experience, is there a separation between you the rabbit hole & a wakened state ? I hope this brings use back in felt experience ?
Sending much Love & Appreciation Yours Truly Stafford

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[SaraStar]

Hello Stafford

Please forgive my late response - things have been a bit up and down in our lives. I have a wonderful partner whom I love deeply. However he finds accumulated stress difficult to handle and everything is fine until the straw that breaks the camel's back and he can become a bit difficult and starts talking about hating life etc. I'm applying a lot of what I've learned to the situation which is helpful but the emotion that shows up is still uncomfortable to experience. Anyway, it's all understandable - new home, a difficult neighbour, depressed dogs all days before Christmas - not easy for anyone at the best of times!!!

Soooo.... the exercise you set me

In your direct experience, is there a separation between you the rabbit hole & a wakened state ? I hope this brings use back in felt experience ?

is interesting and has had me trying and re-trying or rather sensing what is there.

There is sitting, there is the breathing and sensing then thoughts come and there is an exploration of 'I' heading off into the rabbit warren of self and self stories. Then there is a moment in which realisation occurs that 'I' must stop and wake up. Then focusing happens again.

In all of this the only apparent separation is in knowing or thinking that a shift has been made between one state and another. In actual experience there is no separation of anything, only a knowing that there is a preferred state in which to be but the being in each state is all one.

Hmmm... this has been really interesting to explore. Thank you dear Stafford
With love
Sara ✨🙏✨

[StaffordJR]

Hello Stafford

Please forgive my late response - things have been a bit up and down in our lives. I have a wonderful partner whom I love deeply. However he finds accumulated stress difficult to handle and everything is fine until the straw that breaks the camel's back and he can become a bit difficult and starts talking about hating life etc. I'm applying a lot of what I've learned to the situation which is helpful but the emotion that shows up is still uncomfortable to experience. Anyway, it's all understandable - new home, a difficult neighbour, depressed dogs all days before Christmas - not easy for anyone at the best of times!!!

Soooo.... the exercise you set me

In your direct experience, is there a separation between you the rabbit hole & a wakened state ? I hope this brings use back in felt experience ?

is interesting and has had me trying and re-trying or rather sensing what is there.

There is sitting, there is the breathing and sensing then thoughts come and there is an exploration of 'I' heading off into the rabbit warren of self and self stories. Then there is a moment in which realisation occurs that 'I' must stop and wake up. Then focusing happens again.

In all of this the only apparent separation is in knowing or thinking that a shift has been made between one state and another. In actual experience there is no separation of anything, only a knowing that there is a preferred state in which to be but the being in each state is all one.

Hmmm... this has been really interesting to explore. Thank you dear Stafford
With love
Sara

Hi Sara & Yes Great Reply & forgive me too , it's been so busy & I need to get to bed & continue this tomorrow. Just wanted to say Yes to Your above reply, that is what I'm pointing too. There's no separate self, only Intelligent life Living a You !!! Ok Sara We'll continue this tomorrow Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

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[SaraStar]

Hi Stafford, I hope you get a good sleep and feel rested when you wake up 🙏😴🙏.

While I'm waiting I just wanted to run something by you.... When I was very little and sat in a bath full of water I would run the water through my fingers and say "yes you're on top but is there anything below you because it looks like there's nothing there". Now we all know that there are litres and litres of water in a bath so it must all take up space in order for it to reach a certain level in the bath. However, I could never get clear that the water I dribbled through my hands was also at the middle and bottom of the bath.

This must be a very weird comment but I only ever believed that the only water in the bath was the 'layer' that I could run through my fingers. I'm not sure if this is pertinent but, for some reason, I thought it might be.

Anyway, I look forward to your comments on my previous post as well as any thoughts on this weirdness😂😂😂.

Until we meet again, all love
Sara 🌻✨🌻

[StaffordJR]

Hi Stafford, I hope you get a good sleep and feel rested when you wake up .

While I'm waiting I just wanted to run something by you.... When I was very little and sat in a bath full of water I would run the water through my fingers and say "yes you're on top but is there anything below you because it looks like there's nothing there". Now we all know that there are litres and litres of water in a bath so it must all take up space in order for it to reach a certain level in the bath. However, I could never get clear that the water I dribbled through my hands was also at the middle and bottom of the bath.

This must be a very weird comment but I only ever believed that the only water in the bath was the 'layer' that I could run through my fingers. I'm not sure if this is pertinent but, for some reason, I thought it might be.

Anyway, I look forward to your comments on my previous post as well as any thoughts on this weirdness.

Until we meet again, all love
Sara

Hi Sara Love Your Shares & how You're Seeing the Parallels between This & Your personal life , that helps in Seeing This
!!!
So speaking about relationships. Wow I've been with my Lovely Wife for twenty Years & it has Totally reflected This Truth so many times !!! For instance if We get into a disagreement, We can never prove Who's fault it is & or neither one of us is ever wrong or right !!! And it's never about me or Her even when it is, I don't know if that make any sense but it's crazy !!! Lol
About Your recent post concerning Your Childhood experience. What I feel it represents is, being You were so young You were more in touch with Being Presence & understood there is only what's Presently Seen, as like You said above no middle & no bottom just the fingers on top of the water !!!
Perfect because there isn't a bottom top or middle in Reality Crazy Right Lol
I so hope I wrote in a way You understand? A lot of times there is excitement when I see someone staring too See This & I ramble on Lol Thank You for Your Patience, Kindness & Sticking with me, I'm Very Honored !!!
Ok so on with Your last Post when there was Seeing that Knowing was before everything else, if I was understanding You properly ?!?
So Ok Sara I like You to look further into Knowing & See if Your doing the knowing or is Knowing Creating You if that makes sense !?! That's enough for now. Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

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[SaraStar]

Hi Stafford

Thank you for being there, I really appreciate your enthusiasm and your time 🙏.

So speaking about relationships. Wow I've been with my Lovely Wife for twenty Years & it has Totally reflected This Truth so many times !!! For instance if We get into a disagreement, We can never prove Who's fault it is & or neither one of us is ever wrong or right !!! And it's never about me or Her even when it is, I don't know if that make any sense but it's crazy !!!

I do get this ☺️. Mat and I have been together 24 years. We had an amazing, joint spiritual experience when we first got together. If it hadn't been for that I don't think we'd have stayed together as the first 7 years were really tough going. Anyway, Mat made some huge changes and now (I really don't know how he's done it) he's like a Buddha. So I'm following this 'path' but I don't talk with him about it - I just try to live it bit by bit and he's generally there with me. We have some huge stressors at the moment but we tend to bob along on the sea of life and don't capsize!

Perfect because there isn't a bottom top or middle in Reality Crazy Right

So what about an apartment block? Wouldn't you say there's a bottom, middle and top. It's a tangible thing with obvious levels. How do we see this as not being there in reality?

Ok so on with Your last Post when there was Seeing that Knowing was before everything else, if I was understanding You properly ?!?
So Ok Sara I like You to look further into Knowing & See if Your doing the knowing or is Knowing Creating You if that makes sense !?!

I'm not sure if I was saying that knowing was before everything else but maybe that's what was happening because otherwise I'm not sure how else it can be described!

The exercise you have given me is hard and I need you to work me through this quite firmly! It feels like there are two aspects to this question....
Part A: there are things I can say that I know and it feels like 'i' know these things such as: I know I have a sister and two brothers or I know that my dog is lying on the bed beside me or I know I'll speak to my father tomorrow. So these are factual things that I know for certain and can categorically state 'I' know this.
Part B: the knowing that seems to create my experience comes from this sort of enquiry. I focused on the previous exercise and there was knowing, a sensing perhaps. Thus knowing/sensing comes from something else deep within. It's more a guidance and an instinct that knows what is happening without the brain or any cognitive function being involved. So yes, that aspect of knowing seems to be creating my experience.
I know there are probably not 'meant' to be two aspects to this answer but that's what is occurring to me while following the exercise.

I so hope I wrote in a way You understand? A lot of times there is excitement when I see someone staring too See This & I ramble on Lol Thank You for Your Patience, Kindness & Sticking with me, I'm Very Honored !!!

Dear Stafford, I am the one feeling honoured. I Intuit that English is not your first language which means you have gone through a migration process which is not easy. I'm only sorry that you haven't been given the chance to shine as the guide you are because people can't make the time to just be in the guiding process regardless of language etc. I thank you and if we have any stumbles in communication we will work through them.

Sending love and peaceful thoughts
Sara ☺️🙏✨🙏☺️

[StaffordJR]

Hi Stafford

Thank you for being there, I really appreciate your enthusiasm and your time .

So speaking about relationships. Wow I've been with my Lovely Wife for twenty Years & it has Totally reflected This Truth so many times !!! For instance if We get into a disagreement, We can never prove Who's fault it is & or neither one of us is ever wrong or right !!! And it's never about me or Her even when it is, I don't know if that make any sense but it's crazy !!!

I do get this . Mat and I have been together 24 years. We had an amazing, joint spiritual experience when we first got together. If it hadn't been for that I don't think we'd have stayed together as the first 7 years were really tough going. Anyway, Mat made some huge changes and now (I really don't know how he's done it) he's like a Buddha. So I'm following this 'path' but I don't talk with him about it - I just try to live it bit by bit and he's generally there with me. We have some huge stressors at the moment but we tend to bob along on the sea of life and don't capsize!

Perfect because there isn't a bottom top or middle in Reality Crazy Right

So what about an apartment block? Wouldn't you say there's a bottom, middle and top. It's a tangible thing with obvious levels. How do we see this as not being there in reality?

Ok so on with Your last Post when there was Seeing that Knowing was before everything else, if I was understanding You properly ?!?
So Ok Sara I like You to look further into Knowing & See if Your doing the knowing or is Knowing Creating You if that makes sense !?!

I'm not sure if I was saying that knowing was before everything else but maybe that's what was happening because otherwise I'm not sure how else it can be described!

The exercise you have given me is hard and I need you to work me through this quite firmly! It feels like there are two aspects to this question....
Part A: there are things I can say that I know and it feels like 'i' know these things such as: I know I have a sister and two brothers or I know that my dog is lying on the bed beside me or I know I'll speak to my father tomorrow. So these are factual things that I know for certain and can categorically state 'I' know this.
Part B: the knowing that seems to create my experience comes from this sort of enquiry. I focused on the previous exercise and there was knowing, a sensing perhaps. Thus knowing/sensing comes from something else deep within. It's more a guidance and an instinct that knows what is happening without the brain or any cognitive function being involved. So yes, that aspect of knowing seems to be creating my experience.
I know there are probably not 'meant' to be two aspects to this answer but that's what is occurring to me while following the exercise.

I so hope I wrote in a way You understand? A lot of times there is excitement when I see someone staring too See This & I ramble on Lol Thank You for Your Patience, Kindness & Sticking with me, I'm Very Honored !!!

Dear Stafford, I am the one feeling honoured. I Intuit that English is not your first language which means you have gone through a migration process which is not easy. I'm only sorry that you haven't been given the chance to shine as the guide you are because people can't make the time to just be in the guiding process regardless of language etc. I thank you and if we have any stumbles in communication we will work through them.

Sending love and peaceful thoughts
Sara

Oh my Your So Beautifully Welcome Sara & Really it's my Pleasure Guiding You in Seeing Your Truth !!!
I have to Thank You !!! You helped me understand Why it is So hard for me too communicate This !!! English is my first language, however I had a hard time in school & in life. And after going through This Awakening, it's even harder for me too Express this or anything in Words, Life's Actually Unexplainable Lol !?!
For Real
So that's my Migration process You've sensed & I Very much have Appreciated Your Sincere Kindness & Patience through this !!!

So let's start with what You replied with below & look at what direction really is ???
First a word isn't the thing place or direction ?!? Like for instance the word Chocolate can never be the taste smell or texture of Chocolate, it was a Coco Plant First & a Seed before That !?! The middle of a building wasn't a middle before the building or after the building is destroyed. And no matter Where You go or What the Address is, aren't you always Right Here Wherever Here is for You ?!?
Ok my Dear Sara I'm going to stop here & find out if You're feeling & understanding what I'm pointing too here Before We can get into You Separate aspects""A & B"" of Knowing.
Merry Christmas & I Hope things start to become smooth sailing Soon for You Mat & Your Puppy Dog's Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford

quote]Perfect because there isn't a bottom top or middle in Reality Crazy Right[/quote]
So what about an apartment block? Wouldn't you say there's a bottom, middle and top. It's a tangible thing with obvious levels. How do we see this as not being there in reality?


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