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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:26 pm

Sounds ok to me.
And...
What will it give you, what do you hope for?
What don't you want it to be like?

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:24 am

I suppose it will give me relief from this feeling that there is something more and end my searching. I hope it will give me peace of mind and the sense of unity with everything.

I hope it doesn’t end up having no experiential impact on me

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:40 am

Hi Kerry,
I suppose it will give me relief from this feeling that there is something more and end my searching
- sort of, yes, but gating is also on a beginning
I hope it doesn’t end up having no experiential impact on me
- it will if you stick at it, though how strongly people are affected by it varies enormously.

Be aware that expectations are in the way of seeing with fresh eyes, so now leave all this behind in order to take a fresh look.

All expectations, no matter what you expect is not what it is going to be like. Anytime you feel stuck, come back to expectations, if there is something that you think that should be happening, but it isn't- there is an expectation behind it. They are not useful but in the way.


ok with this so far?

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:43 pm

Yes I’m ok with everything so far. I feel like I should be doing something more, but at the same time there is nothing to do

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:09 pm

We're just at the very beginning at the moment - there will be more later!
Here's an exercise I'd like you to do
Get in touch with the real
By real I mean that which is actually here, that does not disappear if you stop believing in it.

Imagine that you are holding a spoon. Imagine form, size, weight, temperature, keep it there, close your eyes, and feel the imaginary spoon.
Open your eyes; is there a spoon here, in real life?
So how did you see that there is no spoon?
What happened to the spoon?
Did it disappear or it never existed?

Let me know how you get on with it xx

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:33 am

No spoon
I saw that there was no spoon with my physical eye sight.
It only existed in the imagination of my mind

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:48 am

Excellent
Notice, that there was no boom and no bright light flashes in the eyes when the imaginary spoon was no longer imagined. Remember this, a shift is not going to be more than this, it’s just a drop of belief- the glue that holds the illusion together.

Look around the room you are in and notice what is real. What is here now? Notice things, notice looking around the room. If you think that this world is not real, check it against an imaginary picture.
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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:52 pm

Just my direct sensory experiences are real

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:22 am

Hi Kerry,
That's great
Next....
Here is another exercise:
Close your eyes and imagine you are in the kitchen. Just visualize and look around, notice where things are put. Notice the space, the feel of it.
This is an image, it can trigger feelings and contractions - expansions, thought stories and feelings attached to them.

Open your eyes and see how an image can be created and explored in the mind.

Go to the kitchen and look at the same things that you saw in the image, how does imagining and experiencing the same things differ? Is the image of the kitchen and experience of the kitchen the same?

xx Sioned

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:34 pm

The image is not as clear. The image doesn’t have all the strong sensory inputs as the real.

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:10 am

Yes.
Repeat now with the bathroom. See what else you notice xx

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:24 pm

I can picture myself doing everything I normally do in the bathroom. I can picture as just an observer.

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:35 pm

Good. Now actually go into the bathroom and notice what that experience is like.
What's the difference between the two?

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:04 pm

the direct experience has no thought, whereas the image is pulled from memory.

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:07 pm

Yes, anything else? Maybe repeat to see what you notice this time - use a different room!
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