Look, ma! No hands!

[phillip]

There is nothing more because is what is and what is not that already dose not exist.
What are you looking for? Do you wait for something?

Is it you writting here?
Describe me how it is going that letters are on the screen.

[Garrett]

Started voiding out spontaneously at 4:16AM Eastern time. Felt "big time" to me but it's new still.

I really was missing a big piece. Reality is perceived as a cluster of discrete objects within this void. The initial perception was that there was the cluster in the middle with the void expanding in all directions around it. Discovered I could "zoom" or consciously "grab" the void and then expand it to increase the space between objects. Feels like you could insert vast space between anything. Felt dangerous. Like you could go out too far such that the body would die. "Divine Coma".

There is the sense that it can deepen in ways that are imperceptible until the deepening happens. Still a feeling of "there's more, there's more, keep going".

Hi Garrett,

Sounds like you're having fun. You do, however, realize that this is all meaningless experience you are describing, right?

Thought doesn't seem to know what's happened (happening?) and is still rambling on. Recognition of the emptiness is subduing thought to a certain degree. Thought cannot recognize it. Meaning is experienced as meaning itself.

Feeling less unsteadiness.

[Garrett]

There is nothing more because is what is and what is not that already dose not exist.
What are you looking for? Do you wait for something?

Is it you writting here?
Describe me how it is going that letters are on the screen.

All is arising out of emptiness.

[phillip]

It's go by itslef but how?

[Garrett]

It's go by itslef but how?

"How" is asked and thoughts arise. Unknown. No "knower".

[phillip]

Who is writting here?

[phillip]

Human! Are you the man?

[Garrett]

Human! Are you the man?

Thinking but no thinker. Feeling but no feeler.

Both arise to meet the question and then fall away.

Looking.

[phillip]

What are you looking for?

[Garrett]

What are you looking for?

It's already here.

[phillip]

Ok. Take it all togeather.
What's I?
Where I came from?
What it can do or what it causes?

[phillip]

*What this can do or what this causes? : )

[Garrett]

Ok. Take it all togeather.
What's I?
Where I came from?
What it can do or what it causes?

'I' is a fiction. It is an unquestioned assumption that arises with thought. The Emperor's New Clothes.

The mind can speculate where 'I' came from. This is not known. The fact is that the 'I' is illusory.

The 'cause' of the 'I' is unknown to the mind. It is un-caused.

The 'I' is like a false narrator that portrays the illusion that it is consuming all experience:

Hearing happening = "I am hearing!"
Seeing happening = "I am seeing!"
Touching happening = "I am touching!"

etc...

[phillip]

The 'cause' of the 'I' is unknown to the mind. It is un-caused.

Is unknown? So I can talk to the people that they are stupid and this has no resault?

[Garrett]

The 'cause' of the 'I' is unknown to the mind. It is un-caused.

Is unknown? So I can talk to the people that they are stupid and this has no resault?

If you are saying that you can call people stupid and there will be no result, this is probably not the case. They may become angry.

Anger is real, thoughts are real, bodies are real, but there is no self behind that anger or those thoughts or those bodies.

If I have misinterpreted the question, please re-word it or re-phrase it so that I may better understand.

Thanks