The Gate

I am looking for a way of looking directly in to my real nature which is clouded by the illusory self which I call ‘me’.

for everything is possible to be experienced because i am.

Do you have the goal of finding what you are? Do you believe that what you are needs to find itself or understand itself? Or can be found and seen by itself? As if it were an extended version, a higher version, of a self?
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Finding out who i am used to mean so much to "me" based based on the assumption that some how mehari by some kind of effort can find his true self.but now i know it's another mind game cause mehari is a thought as is finding the true self. looking life unfold and life being unfolding is what i am simultaneously. Even though functioning as if there is a doer happens from time to time, snapping out of it happens effortlessly. words falls short to fuuly reaval what i mean but i'm sure you get me.

Mehari

Finding out who i am used to mean so much to "me" based based on the assumption that some how mehari by some kind of effort can find his true self.but now i know it's another mind game cause mehari is a thought as is finding the true self. looking life unfold and life being unfolding is what i am simultaneously. Even though functioning as if there is a doer happens from time to time, snapping out of it happens effortlessly. words falls short to fuuly reaval what i mean but i'm sure you get me.

I understand what you are trying to say (or I think I do). But I would like you to describe to me what you see right now. Without a self, what remains? What do you see going on?

Maybe my problem is i'm impatient to get it.

You are doing great! It is normal to swing for a while between the seeing that a self is only a concept created by thoughts and doubts. Keep checking if you can find an I when you remember to do so.

What do you think there is to get?
Do you mean you can't see a self isn't a real entity, solid, permanent, separate or do you mean that despite the fact that you can see a self isn't a real person you are still feeling you are a self and your way of thinking didn't change like you would like it to do?

In other words, at the time being what makes you say you need more guidance? What do you think is missing?

i am seeing that the self is not real more and more and it's becoming spontaneous and effortless.

By getting it i mean an understanding that will annihilate the self once and for all.

i realized today that the I thought like any other thought will continue to surface and the only thing i have to do is to recognize it as such.

i have definetly seen without a doubt that the self doesn't exist in any shape or form besides as a thought form and it only felt real because i kept identifying with it.

have no impact on my being.

i don't react to anything anymore ( almost all the time).

If there isn't a self, what gets identified?
What is the identification made of?

What do you think "your being" is?
What has and owns a being?

What do you mean? Are you feeling alienated from life? passive?

Thank you for your reply.
Do you have any doubts?
Do you feel something is missing?

How would you describe this to someone who has never heard of this?

That's a nice answer mehari, thank you.

We didn't talk about issues like control and choice. How would you answer this:

Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen?
How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

Take care,
C

Even from logical point of view it’s completely ridiculous to think that one “entity” out of the infinitely complex happening of life can considers all the mind boggling numbers of information which is also dynamic from moment to moment and decide and get the desired result .