Thank you for noticing all the thinking...i will focus on direct looking
Samantha
Looking
where does sound happen
Where does sound happen?
Now...here
Now...here
Re: Looking
Where is your body?
The body is here.
Initially, when looking, it appeared as if it is located in thought/words and sensation.... Thought and sensation refers to but the body does not reside in thought/sensation.
There are times when the body seems to be in the forefront and other times in the background...Hardly noticed.
Whether its my body? Its proximity to this what is known in the moment makes it seem like my body.... Sensations are known but can I say they are my sensations?
I hope I'm not over thinking... I'm really trying to look and see... I found this challenging and fearful.
The body is here.
Initially, when looking, it appeared as if it is located in thought/words and sensation.... Thought and sensation refers to but the body does not reside in thought/sensation.
There are times when the body seems to be in the forefront and other times in the background...Hardly noticed.
Whether its my body? Its proximity to this what is known in the moment makes it seem like my body.... Sensations are known but can I say they are my sensations?
I hope I'm not over thinking... I'm really trying to look and see... I found this challenging and fearful.
Re: Looking
Good morning Samantha,
When I asked you the question, Where does sound happen, you replied
What was your direct experience of this? Take me through the steps.
Blessings,
Siobhán
When I asked you the question, Where does sound happen, you replied
Now...here
What was your direct experience of this? Take me through the steps.
How do you now this?The body is here.
Initially, when looking, it appeared as if it is located in thought/words and sensation.... Thought and sensation refers to but the body does not reside in thought/sensation.
Blessings,
Siobhán
Re: Looking
What I meant to say was 'How do you KNOW this :) .
Re: Looking
Where does sound happen?How do you know this?
sound is known in the immediacy...it seems to be directional...ie the sound is coming from there...it is known now as there is hearing now...hearing is not found outside the immediacy....sound is a part of the tapestry of everything that is here...sound such as the heater or the wind or birds chirping and seeing like seeing trees, legs, grass, fireplace and bodily sensations like contraction/expansion...all part of what is here now.
How do I know this? Looking at what is in the moment...whats here? what can I know is true about this? what is true here is what is presently here...the view sorta speak which includes sound, sensation, the body, material things.
Where is my body?
the body appears as images (eyes open) legs, arms...eyes closed the body is experienced as sensations, movement thru space and images...yes images appear when looking with eyes closed...the images are not exact but only ghostlike of the body parts that are seen moving thru space i.e.: on the treadmill with my eyes closed there is sensations thru out the body and images of legs moving, arms moving or hand holding on to machine...movement happens/changes without anyone directing it...slows down speeds up without direction from "me".
At times the body seems very real and solid and important (sorta speak)...other times, the body significance disappears and the experience is of open space with a faint recognition that the body seems to be way in the background.
Where is your body?
Re: Looking
Good morning Samantha,
What is your current understanding of what 'you' are. please tell me this from your direct experience.
Blessings,
Siobhán
What is your current understanding of what 'you' are. please tell me this from your direct experience.
Blessings,
Siobhán
Re: Looking
Initially after reading your question, I pointed to the body... That's me... At times there is a strong identity with the body and other times the body takes the back seat to open-space... In open-space the body is known but is not really attended to or not given much importance... Space feels different.. Almost like a head/view without a body... Spontaneity and more free flowing. The body moves on its own volition...i can't make it do something. I don't choose if the head turns or I stand up... Either it does or it doesn't...(there is an ownership at times and other times not)What is your current understanding of what 'you' are. please tell me this from your direct experience.
Thoughts are not my creation...Thoughts are known but they don't originate from me... There is not a me selecting thoughts or creating thoughts... They arise... There is ownership at times but often they are seen as words/images that arise without my say so.
As I sit here writing this I notice my fingers on the phone typing this message... What am I really? It seems I'm the witness of what is here with the movement of ownership at times and non ownership at times... It feels like pretending to be a person but recognizing it's all out of my control... All of it.
Re: Looking
Good morning Samantha,
If what you have described is truly from your direct experience, then you are already 'seeing.' I am going to ask another guide to read through our interaction and give me his comments before I respond further. I do actually have one question for you. If you already 'see,' I'm curious as to why you are here asking to be guided. Do you have an expectation of having an experience of some kind?
Blessings,
Siobhán
If what you have described is truly from your direct experience, then you are already 'seeing.' I am going to ask another guide to read through our interaction and give me his comments before I respond further. I do actually have one question for you. If you already 'see,' I'm curious as to why you are here asking to be guided. Do you have an expectation of having an experience of some kind?
Blessings,
Siobhán
Re: Looking
The expectation is that the experience of open spaciousness at the forefront would be more prevalent in my everyday experience... How do I know this... It feels different/less of a personhood... Even when that experience is not here, there is an awareness of everything happens on its own.If you already 'see,' I'm curious as to why you are here asking to be guided. Do you have an expectation of having an experience of some kind?
The last couple months propelled me here, intense looking, quite by surprise.
Any other expectation?' A quieter mind...i didn't really know what to expect... Wasn't looking for bells and whistles.
Re: Looking
Good morning Samantha,
Blessings,
Siobhán
Well, in my experience, this happens gradually over time for most. At the beginning of our dialogue I said that we do not teach here at LU. What we do here is to assist 'people' to 'see.' It sounds to me like you already 'see' , so perhaps what you might be wanting at this point, from what you say, is perhaps a teacher that might be able to direct you further with your investigation.The expectation is that the experience of open spaciousness at the forefront would be more prevalent in my everyday experience.
Blessings,
Siobhán
Re: Looking
I didn't realize this was it!
I don't think I'm looking for a teacher...i really don't want a teacher.
I was hoping to be pointed to something I was overlooking, etc.
I am happy to look independently.
Thank you for your time.
Samantha
I don't think I'm looking for a teacher...i really don't want a teacher.
I was hoping to be pointed to something I was overlooking, etc.
I am happy to look independently.
Thank you for your time.
Samantha
Re: Looking
Good morning Samantha,
I have asked my former guide to have a look at our conversations to see if there is something he will be able to assist you with that I have been unable to do. He has agreed. He is wonderful! Would you like to give it a go with Jon? If so, just let me know and he will respond to you.
I wish you Love and Blessings always,
Siobhán
I have asked my former guide to have a look at our conversations to see if there is something he will be able to assist you with that I have been unable to do. He has agreed. He is wonderful! Would you like to give it a go with Jon? If so, just let me know and he will respond to you.
I wish you Love and Blessings always,
Siobhán
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