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Re: request to help the search end

Postby Andrei » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:22 pm

but with less drama around it, less fight, less should and shouldn't... Just seeing things for what they are, happenings, Life in motion...
Indeed :)

Already there is great curiosity. Where will all this lead to? However, no expectations... Somehow a knowing that it is all okay.
Curiosity and being open minded are great to have in our "branch". You never know what life still has in store for us. I "gated" like 2.5 years ago and I still surprise myself learning new things, having new insights, even new shifts.

Oh, and we have a few FB groups which you might like, groups for after care, continuing inquiry, or just chatting. After our convo here one of our admins will send you an invite if you're interested.


Ok, here are the last questions. They encompass pretty much everything we talked about so some things might repeat themselves.
Take as much time as you need. Afterwards I will ask the other guides to have a look, see if there's anything we missed talking about.


1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

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Re: request to help the search end

Postby Ilsa » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:11 am

I still surprise myself learning new things, having new insights, even new shifts.
Happy to hear that. This is really just a beginning...
After our convo here one of our admins will send you an invite if you're interested.
Yes please, I'm definitely interested.

Ok, here are my answers for the 6 questions
1) No there is no separate self, me, I at all. Nowhere to be found, not in any shape nor form. And it was never there either.

2) The illusion of a separate self is that we think there is somebody, a person, that is given a certain name. And that person is responsible for everything what happens in his/her life. We think we can control our thoughts, our environment, our actions, how other people should act. We separate ourselves from what is happening. We separate ourselves from other people. It starts very early in life. When we learn to point to things and give it a name, a label. We learn that some things, some emotions, some actions are good, others are bad. And we don't want the so called bad things, emotions, actions. But they still happen, and since we think we are responsible for their happenings we feel that we are a bad person. Which leads to guilt, shame, fear. We feel something is missing. And then the searching starts. Searching to improve that person, searching for a better life, better circumstances, a relationship. Something or someone that can make us complete. But there is nothing to add... There is only to substract... Substract the believe that we are separate, that we are in control, that there is a somebody, a person doing it all...

3) How does it feel to see through the illusion of a separate self? Quite ordinary actually... Nothing really changed. Daily Life just goes on as usual. Ups and downs, happiness and sadness, boredom and excitement, the usual stuff. Nothing is left out. But there is a sense of ease around it, less fighting, less drama. Nothing personal, just sensations happening. And changing all the time, passing by. A sense of wonder too. How beautiful, how perfect this all is.

4) the last bit? I really don't have a clue... The last weeks before and after discovering LU (but before deciding to ask a guide) a lot of extraordinary events and synchronicities happened. They were so out of the normal routine, so extravagant that I felt like there had to be something beyond than "me". These things, these events, I could never have even imagined them, let alone make them happen...It seems that one thing led to another and that the illusion of a separate self was already dissolving. It simply needed that extra push/confirmation in the form of this guided conversation.

5) Decisions: they are made, at the right time, not one minute earlier nor later. No I involved in the decision, it just happens, when it happens. Intention: it's there or it's not. And it can be followed or not but again that following or not following is just happening. “I” don't have anything to say in it or to do with it. The same with free will, choice and control. They are just labels that are put on events after that they happened. “I have free will and made the choice to control my reaction so that's why I didn't lash out” Hah, keeping silent happened. Just that! Nothing to do with free will, nothing to do with choice, nothing to do with control. No me responsible. What makes things happen? I don't know. Not me anyway. Things just happen, call it Life, call it God, call it the Universe...

6) Gratitude! So much gratitude! And love for all you wonderfull people helping others to see.

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Re: request to help the search end

Postby Andrei » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:22 pm

Hey Ilsa

Looks great! We have no more questions for you.
It was a pleasure chatting with you. Glad you made it and hope to see you in our FB groups!

Enjoy!


Andrei

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Re: request to help the search end

Postby Ilsa » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:38 pm

🙏👍💜🙏


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