Self-brexiting

[brexit]

Hello Key,

Where in colour, sound, taste, smell, sensation and thought is there an "I"? There are thoughts ABOUT an “I”, but they are AE of thought and not the AE of an “I”. So where in actual experience can an “I” be found?

After looking I couldn’t find an “I” in color, sound, taste, smell, sensation and thought. In my actual experience the “I” noticed the color, sound, taste, smell, sensation and thought.

Where in the label, sensation, colour and thought can an “I” be found exactly?

The “I” cannot be found in the label, sensation, color and thought.

Really? Above the head? So tell me, how does that “I” above the head feel like and what exactly does it look like?

It cannot feel itself. And It cannot see itself. But it is impossible not to be.

How are these “logical thoughts” attracted to you? And where are these logical thoughts stored? And please don’t say it’s a mystery. What IS, ie actual experience is always here, so there is nothing unknown.

The conditions to how these “logical thoughts” are attracted to me are not known. It is like dreams. They are dreamed and then after one awake, they are again remembered. So is it with logical thoughts. They happen and after them appearing they are remembered and then jugged if they were ordered and sequential or not.

And what is an assumption? And please don’t give me a definition of what an assumption is. In AE what is an assumption?

In AE an assumption is the judgement how a thing should be and not how it is.
Peace, Brexit

[forgetmenot]

Hello,

Before responding to your post, I would like for you to do the following exercise on how to look at thoughts. Not only will this give you more of an insight into thought, but will also show you how to LOOK, which this exploration entails.

Here is a step-by-step description of how to look at thoughts:

(1) Notice the current thought that is present.
Like when you sit observing the body, a thought might arise “this is my feet” or “here is a pain” or “my breathing is too quick” or “I am bored with this exercise” or “I have better things to do” or any sorts of thoughts.

(2) This thought will pass and another thought will come. So just observe this thought passing.

(3) Then wait for the next thought to come.

(4) When the next thought is present, just notice it, and see how it passes.

(5) Then wait for the next thought to come.

(6) Repeat #4 and #5 many-many times.

Between the 2 thoughts there is a gap. It can be very short or subtle, just a second or a few seconds before the next thought come in.

This is how to look at thoughts.
Looking how they come and go.
And observing the short gap between them.
Noticing how the current thought is passing.
And waiting for the next thought to come.

Please do the following exercise:
Throughout your waking day, try to observe the gap between thoughts as often as possible. It can be done by noticing that ‘thinking’ is happening right now, then stop and just simply wait for the next thought to come. In the ‘waiting’ there is a gap between two thoughts.

Let me know how you go.


Love, Kay
xx

[brexit]

Hello Kay,

Please do the following exercise:
Throughout your waking day, try to observe the gap between thoughts as often as possible. It can be done by noticing that ‘thinking’ is happening right now, then stop and just simply wait for the next thought to come. In the ‘waiting’ there is a gap between two thoughts.

Let me know how you go.

It’s not an easy task, I think I need more time for this exercise.
I will let you know how I go.
Peace, Brexit

[forgetmenot]

Yes, take a couple of days and really notice thought...all thought.

Love, Kay
xx

[brexit]

Hello Key,

Please do the following exercise:
Throughout your waking day, try to observe the gap between thoughts as often as possible. It can be done by noticing that ‘thinking’ is happening right now, then stop and just simply wait for the next thought to come. In the ‘waiting’ there is a gap between two thoughts.
Let me know how you go.

I have never thought about the possibility of a gap between the thoughts. It also seemed almost impossible to solve this riddle. It was possible and if only fleeting for the first time this morning right after getting up. When I was not quite awake and still lying on the bed, that gap between the thoughts was to be noticed. I have again a problem to notice it all the time during my waking day. I tried to be quiet, but there is a struggle to make the mind calm and to be eable to regognise the gap between the thoughts again. What is the trick to notice it easier without struggling to calm the mind?

Peace, Brexit

[forgetmenot]

Hi Brexit,

I have never thought about the possibility of a gap between the thoughts. It also seemed almost impossible to solve this riddle. It was possible and if only fleeting for the first time this morning right after getting up. When I was not quite awake and still lying on the bed, that gap between the thoughts was to be noticed. I have again a problem to notice it all the time during my waking day. I tried to be quiet, but there is a struggle to make the mind calm and to be eable to regognise the gap between the thoughts again. What is the trick to notice it easier without struggling to calm the mind,

This exercise had two purposes. Firstly, for you to see how to LOOK. When LOOKING it is about LOOKING carefully, just like you were looking carefully to find a gap between thoughts. And secondly to notice how thoughts just come and go and to see the randomness etc of thought.

If you were the thinker/controller of thought, should it not have been possible just to stop thoughts, or at least be able to slow/quiet thought for you to be able to do what you intended to do…which was to find the gap between thoughts?

How is it known (recognised) that a gap had been reached between thoughts, because a thought said so?

Love, Kay
xx

PS: Thank you for the wonderful effort you put into trying to complete this exercise, it is this type of LOOKING, diligence and desire that brings about the realisation of there being no separate self.

[brexit]

Hello Kay,

If you were the thinker/controller of thought, should it not have been possible just to stop thoughts, or at least be able to slow/quiet thought for you to be able to do what you intended to do…which was to find the gap between thoughts?

How is it known (recognised) that a gap had been reached between thoughts, because a thought said so?

Now It is clear that I am not the thinker/controller of thought.
The gap had been reached between thoughts, because there was no thought.

PS: I have to thank for your patience and the Supermega performance that you are affording here.

Peace, Brexit

[forgetmenot]

Hey Brexit,

Now It is clear that I am not the thinker/controller of thought.

Great! Since there is no controller /thinker of thought, is there freewill and are you responsible for anything including choices and decisions?

The gap had been reached between thoughts, because there was no thought.

Hmmm. Look again. How would you know there was a gap unless a thought said "this is the gap"?

PS: I have to thank for your patience and the Supermega performance that you are affording here.

My pleasure! As long as you keep LOOKING we are going places! :)

Love, Kay
Xx

[brexit]

Hi Kay,

Great! Since there is no controller /thinker of thought, is there freewill and are you responsible for anything including choices and decisions?

Man did have always a choice of action.
And there are always choices to make. Every day, every hour, offered the opportunity to make a decision, a decision which determined whether or not I would become the plaything of circumstance. Since Auschwitz and Hiroshima we know for certain that man has freewill.

Hmmm. Look again. How would you know there was a gap unless a thought said "this is the gap"?

I agree with you, that a gap had been reached between thoughts, because a thought said so.

Peace, Brexit

[forgetmenot]

Hey Brexit,

Great! Since there is no controller /thinker of thought, is there freewill and are you responsible for anything including choices and decisions?

Man did have always a choice of action.
And there are always choices to make. Every day, every hour, offered the opportunity to make a decision, a decision which determined whether or not I would become the plaything of circumstance. Since Auschwitz and Hiroshima we know for certain that man has freewill.

Okay, so let's have a look at the idea of control/choices/decisions.

1. Hold a hand in front of you; palm turned down.
2. Now turn the palm up. And down...and up and so on.
Watch like a hawk.

Don't go to thoughts, examine the actual experience. Do this as many times as you like, and each time inquire…

How is the movement controlled?
Does a thought control it?
Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?
How is the decision made to turn the hand over? Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.
Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?

Love, Kay
xx

[brexit]

Hi Kay,

How is the movement controlled?

The movement is controlled with my intention that supports it.

Does a thought control it?

No, thought doesn’t control it.

Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

I am the only controller present while it happens.

How is the decision made to turn the hand over? Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.
Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?

The decision to turn the hand over is made with my first intention to make it happen. I am the separate individual that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down.
Peace, Brexit

[forgetmenot]

Hi Brexit,

Okay, we aren't going to get anywhere if you aren't prepared to LOOK and to look with actual experience, then this exploration with me ends now. This is what my hesitation was in guiding you was about in the beginning. If looking with actual experience is something that you can't do, then you need to find yourself another guide, as I am not prepared to keep stating the same things over and over about how to LOOK, LOOKING with an open mind and what actual experience is.

Actual experience is what is always present which is sound, thought, smell, taste, sensation, colour, it is NOT the stories about actual experience. Where in sound, thought, smell, taste, sensation, colour do you find an "I"?

So, the bottom line is, you either want to LOOK or not. Going back to looking at where the finger is pointing to in the body to where the "I" seems to be located...for you to say above your head...really? To me you aren't ready and you are not looking with genuine desire and diligence. There are many waiting at the gate for a guide.

Love, Kay
xx

[brexit]

Hi Kay,

I have had a problem whith where I can put the movement of the hand in actual expeirence, is it thought, taste, sensation or colour? I has a problem to put the movement in the right actual experience. That is where my difficulty lay. I was honest in my answers. It is not an easy task to look like you from a Wider view point without your help. I know that a guide how is once gone throught the gate has more patience and accept what is. And what is here is someone who cannot like you have expected. Please be patient with me. I promise you to do my best.

I will never give up, because my wish is to be one day a guide :-)

Peace, Brexit

[forgetmenot]

Hello Brexit,

Okay...we are going back to the beginning. Here are two exercises I would like for you to do. The first exercise I would like for you to do throughout your day for the next couple of days. I just want you to become really aware of WHAT IS ie actual experience. The second exercise is about labelling.

1. Here is how to go about your day and taking absolutely EVERYTHING at face value.

You're in the kitchen and you hear a song playing from the other room. Of course, it’s only thought that says that, isn't it? So take that thought for face value. Then look again, that song isn't coming from anywhere is it? In fact, it is not a song at all, is it? Only thought says it’s a song. In reality it’s just sound. So, stick with that, discard everything that isn't obvious and apparent.

When sitting in a café enjoying a coffee. Do the same. Look around and thought will say that you are looking at other people drinking coffee. But that is only thought that says that, isn’t it? So take the thought at face value ie as the AE of thought only. LOOK again. What thought points to as people, are in fact not people at all, but colour.

At work you are getting anxious because you aren’t able to meet a deadline. But that is only thought that says that, isn’t it? But LOOK again. What thought points to as a person at work getting anxious is in fact, sensation.

Do the same with smell and taste. This will help in breaking down what SEEMS to be happening into what actually IS.

Let me know how you go.



2. There is no who. There is nothing here in actual experience that is separate from experienced. In other words there is no ‘experiencer’ of experience. Just THS. Always now.

You will need pen and paper and 20 minutes of your time.

First write what is being ‘experienced’ right now using words “I” and “me” and “my”. Get right to the point, no past or future fantasy, just plain description of here now.

For example:-
I am lying in bed.
I am hearing the rain,
I am typing these words,
I am scratching my leg,
I am drinking a cup of coffee
I am thinking about what to write
My back is aching

Do it for 10 minutes. Watch the body - are there any sensations of tightening or relaxing?

Then for next 10 minutes write WITHOUT words “I” and “me” and “my”. Just describe the experience as it is happening using verbs:

Lying in bed, waiting for next thought, typing, breathing, blinking, drinking, hearing the rain, scratching leg, aching back etc

Again watch what is happening in the body.

Now compare the two ways of labelling experience- is one truer than the other? If so, which one? What is here without labels? Do labels affect the experience or just describe it?


Love, Kay
xx

[brexit]

Hi Kay,

I will report in 2 days.

Peace, Brexit