Lee welcome to the forum, let's have a chat

[Lee]

Yes, Absolutely ! There are thoughts about (me) Imagination,Only Beingness Is Awareness aware of itself & (we) build stories around awareness that (we) claim or believe to be true when in fact those beliefs are imaginary only Reality is.Life Is

[Ilona]

Yes, exactly.

So tell me now, what is lee? Look at him as a character in the story. What drives the story itself, how does it work?
Write what comes up here.

[Lee]

Lee Is an Imaginary story,a character in a play.Lee is made up from all the beliefs ,projections ,however you wnt to say it. What drives the story ? Fear,Expectations,Avoidance all unreal yet because they are accepted as real I imagine them as true. All because I have accepted that an I is needed to relate to Life rather than realizing that life IS & here it is.It is simple Life Is . So what is Lee truly Life No Lee but yet there is still Life ,Awareness of Life Lee is Awareness of Life without the Lee haha Language is really messed up.How to describe it ,Many years ago (i) wrote about Awareness & that we are units of awareness we build stories around these units of awareness to "fit in" We build illusion upon illusion & call Society or even Life but it is not LIFE it is Imagination. We discourage sameness Onenesss if you will because we are afraid of not being but we are nothing but being we can not be. Where does this come from ? It comes from not Looking .Being is not realized because it simply IS,there is nothing to do,so to speak,just Be .Life really just flows,if you will,& that means we can't control it( as if we could or there was anything to control) So I would say How does it work ? It just does very Existential

[Ilona]

dear lee, i have such i warm feeling in my heart as i read you message.
please tell me, when you say I what does it refer to?

[Lee]

I is lee the character in the story. This is part of the story the part that awakens to itself playing a part does it stop the part ? No the part goes it just realizes it is a fictional part that is being played ,cool , that relieves so much.So the i that i refer too is actually the awareness that a part is being played.

[Ilona]

hm, ok, let see what you got here:

1) Is there a 'me', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works.

3) How does it feel to see this?

[Lee]

1) No ,Never 2) Illusion of separate self starts when you accept the notion that You exist as an independent entity.The illusion is that there is something that exists that is a self that has a life that has an existence separate from Life itself .It makes up roles to play likes & dislikes,can be harmed by the actions of presumed others,can achieve the American Dream (haha)& is subject to rulers LOL The illusion tells you that you exist are very important & that others do not matter as much as you.That you are a sinner & must get Jesus or else..3) Howdoes it Feel like crying laughing & JOY..Freedom..Love..& Relief

[Ilona]

thank you lee, your answer shows me that you are seeing what i'm pointing to. but how would you tell about this illusion to somebody, who never heard of it before?

much love.

[Lee]

What if everything you thought you knew about yourself was just a story part of it made up for you & part made up by you.or better something that thought there is a you. Actually there is only reality ,Awareness.Awareness reflects upon itself.Then along comes parents ,teachers ,church,& they help define this awareness reflecting upon itself as you .It is innocent enough because they do not know that there is only awareness reflecting upon itself.So they give you a name & show you how the world works for them & awareness gets lost in this Dream story being told.Awareness gets lost in an illusion that something besides itself exists & an identity is formed awareness grabs hold of a thought YOU ME Others & the Illusion takes off .Now you think there is you that is separate from other you 's & you must do something to show these others that you are & that you are as "Good" or better than they are.What makes it so difficult is that thisyou stops looking stops seeing that it is all just awareness reflecting on itself but because it is awareness reflecting upon itself nothing seems to be wrong so Identity is accepted & separation is accepted as normal. Then you get this crazy idea that maybe it is not normal that something just doesn't ring true so you go searching & searching until you find someone who loves you enough to tell you to slow dowm & look ,see what has happened & find out from your own seeing what is really true.Thanks so much Ilona <3

[Ilona]

yo are very welcome, dear lee. i's my pleasure to assist. <3

until now that has been my quest discovering the God in Me & All Creation.

is your quest complete? how do you see it now?

[Lee]

God is Awareness & there is none else. Where do we go from here ? I like this....

[Lee]

I see everything differently now there is no separation. No God & Me & Creation.All ONE There is no me so It's All Awareness which I can know say is what has been refered to as God But it seems that a new adventure is starting what do you think Have I passed throughthe Gateless Gate ?

[Ilona]

let's see, is there a gate? is there a you to cross?

[Lee]

Thanks Ilona I do not have the words to express my Gratitude, There is no Me to Cross so there is no gate

[Ilona]

ahahahahahaha!!!

great!
what was that last push, that made you look and see this?
what is real?
describe what is here now please as you are experiencing it.

much love