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Greetings, Pedersen! :)
I'm now back in Japan, being super-busy with my work ...

Thoughts pop up saying it´s a problem because unmindfulness seems like a hindrance to seeing the illusion of a self.
In retrospect, it´s not a problem at all, as there is no one to whom it´s a problem. It´s simply just a natural flow of becoming aware and unaware - no one is becoming aware and unaware.

Great! Do you feel this is an experiential understanding?

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The feeling of a me choosing to press the numbers a deeply conditioned, but when looking there is simply no one. thoughts are commenting and saying the numbers before pressing them, which makes it feel like there is a doer choosing them.

That is a very nice observation, Pedersen!

In order to answer this, I´m trying to find the director of attention. At one moment I can put attention on the foot, next I can put attention on the finger and next, complete attention can be on an object with background thoughts commenting rapidly - which I believe is the case of being consumed by thoughts.

I can´t locate the one who directs attention on the different objects, but at the same time the experience doesn´t feel automatic, like just movement and flow - As in an implicit doer.

What makes you feel the existence of an "implicit doer?"
Could you observe it?

In direct experience, no me reside inside a body, and body is a concept - Not real. In direct experience, body is different types of feelings of energy(emotions), sense perception of seeing concepts called arms+legs+body+nose, and sensations on the skin.

Very clear ... :)
Are there 'inside' and 'outside' regarding sensations?

No mind exist except as a concept - only thoughts.

Are you body and mind?


Peace,

Kento

Hi Kento

Welcome back, hope it was a successful trip? Can I ask what you work with? I can relate, as I´m also VERY busy with work myself these days. It is also during work that I forget LOOKING, due to the heavy workload and tight deadlines.

Great! Do you feel this is an experiential understanding?

It´s my experience more and more, but only when I take the time to LOOK. As I mentioned above, during work what I experience is the old conditioned way of experiencing life, asleep and with an implicit self, direction and making decisions.

What makes you feel the existence of an "implicit doer?"
Could you observe it?

When consumed by thoughts, it´s probably old conditioning - there´s a feeling of having a face and the assumption of a self inside the body.

I´m not sure if this is the case because it happenes quite fast - When moving my fingers, thought is lightning fast to claim ownership of the doing of it.
one hand can start moving one moment, and a couple of seconds later the other hand can start moving. Even though it´s not possible to find a doer when LOOKING, there is just this assumption there´s a self making the choice of moving the hands - also when there are no apparent thought commenting meanwhile.

Very clear ... :)
Are there 'inside' and 'outside' regarding sensations?

When LOOKING, there´s no inside or outside, there´s no location to sensation. When not LOOKING, aka during work etc. sensations and seeing are coupled creating an illusion of Space and location, this is where sensations are experienced as being outside of the body.

Are you body and mind?

This is the assumption when not LOOKING, but when LOOKING, there´s a glimpse of just being what is percieved - Very fleetingly.


Just a comment: I´m starting to LOOK more and more. In the beginning, I found that I had a stronger sense of self behind the eyes than anywhere else, so what I do know when LOOKING is the following:

1. Aware of a thought, sound, feeling of wanting something etc.
2. Asking "myself" who is aware of the object - while simultanously trying to locate the self which is aware of the thought asking it. When trying to locate the self, I LOOK specifically behind the eyes where I very quickly see there´s no self observing any objects.

The above process makes it feel like perceptions are just happening in a flow, and there is no self perceiving the objects.

Can you comment on the above process Kento? When LOOKING I´m always trying to find the self behind the eyes, because this is where I assumed myself to be located in the beginning.

Hope it makes sense:-)

Have a nice evening

Warm regards,
Pedersen

Hi Pedersen! :)

Welcome back, hope it was a successful trip? Can I ask what you work with? I can relate, as I´m also VERY busy with work myself these days. It is also during work that I forget LOOKING, due to the heavy workload and tight deadlines.

I'm a teacher. I took my students to Vancouver so that they can study in one of the language
schools there. This is my first year as a homeroom teacher, and, since schools in Japan start
in April, I've been pretty much busy preparing for it, right after coming back from Canada.


I think I need more time to send you a full reply.
I'll be back as soon as things get settled down a bit more.

Sorry for keeping you waiting ...


Peace,

Kento

It´s my experience more and more, but only when I take the time to LOOK. As I mentioned above, during work what I experience is the old conditioned way of experiencing life, asleep and with an implicit self, direction and making decisions.

Is that true?

Let's do an experiment.

Please recall a scene from the past ... time spent
at work. Being very busy.

Try grasping the scene with your hand (literally)

What happened?
Could you grasp it?

When consumed by thoughts, it´s probably old conditioning - there´s a feeling of having a face and the assumption of a self inside the body.

I´m not sure if this is the case because it happenes quite fast - When moving my fingers, thought is lightning fast to claim ownership of the doing of it.
one hand can start moving one moment, and a couple of seconds later the other hand can start moving. Even though it´s not possible to find a doer when LOOKING, there is just this assumption there´s a self making the choice of moving the hands - also when there are no apparent thought commenting meanwhile.

How is that "assumption" felt?
Is "assumption" a mere group of thoughts, or is it more than that?

Can you take a close look at what is felt with this "assumption?"

When LOOKING, there´s no inside or outside, there´s no location to sensation. When not LOOKING, aka during work etc. sensations and seeing are coupled creating an illusion of Space and location, this is where sensations are experienced as being outside of the body.

That explanation comes from memory - remembrance, past.
Is memory real?
Is past real?

Please do the experiment mentioned above.

This is the assumption when not LOOKING, but when LOOKING, there´s a glimpse of just being what is percieved - Very fleetingly.

Is sounds like you made LOOKing into some kind of a practice, or something YOU DO.
Relax, Pedersen.


Question ... Who LOOKs?
Where can you find the one that LOOKs?

Just a comment: I´m starting to LOOK more and more. In the beginning, I found that I had a stronger sense of self behind the eyes than anywhere else, so what I do know when LOOKING is the following:

1. Aware of a thought, sound, feeling of wanting something etc.
2. Asking "myself" who is aware of the object - while simultanously trying to locate the self which is aware of the thought asking it. When trying to locate the self, I LOOK specifically behind the eyes where I very quickly see there´s no self observing any objects.

The above process makes it feel like perceptions are just happening in a flow, and there is no self perceiving the objects.

Can you comment on the above process Kento? When LOOKING I´m always trying to find the self behind the eyes, because this is where I assumed myself to be located in the beginning.

Hope it makes sense:-)

Wow! Great observations, Pedersen!

It seems, from my experience of guiding, the place
people look at when trying to locate the self is different.


What is the problem, though, if "I" can't be located
anywhere at the end of search?


Peace,

Kento

Hi Kento

Thank you for taking the time to reply, I'll post tomorrow as I only have my mobile to write on at the moment..

Warm regards,
Pedersen

Hi Kento

I'm a teacher. I took my students to Vancouver so that they can study in one of the language
schools there. This is my first year as a homeroom teacher, and, since schools in Japan start
in April, I've been pretty much busy preparing for it, right after coming back from Canada.

Sounds nice, hope it was a good trip for the kids:-)

Please recall a scene from the past ... time spent
at work. Being very busy.

Try grasping the scene with your hand (literally)

What happened?
Could you grasp it?

Impossible to grasp it, the thought disappeared:-)

How is that "assumption" felt?

It´s difficult to answer this.. been trying to answer this for 10 minutes now, it´s just all the objects of awareness such as sensations on the body, sounds etc. with thoughts claiming they are happening to a self. The illusion is so persistent that when I sit and no thoughts claim anything (for a brief time), it´s just implicit that objects are percieved by a self located in the head.
I then look for this assumed self, and it´s not there of course.

Is "assumption" a mere group of thoughts, or is it more than that?

I wonder if there is an underlaying silent thought which is not heard commenting that is constantly keeping the illusion of a self alive?
I can´t answer this question.. I can´t find anything other than sensations on the body, eyes seeing, thoughts commenting, hearing sounds. No self is experiencing these objects.

Can you take a close look at what is felt with this "assumption?"

My first thought is that it feels like there´s a ghost in the bottle(body) that can´t be defined and who is experiencing inputs from the sense organs. I keep looking, and I can´t locate "myself" anywhere..
Maybe I need to look deeper before it can be realised.

That explanation comes from memory - remembrance, past.
Is memory real?
Is past real?

Please do the experiment mentioned above.

You´re right, it seems I was creating an explanation based on thoughts about what was experienced. Memories and the past are not real.

Question ... Who LOOKs?
Where can you find the one that LOOKs?

There is no one who looks, it happens automatically. This Automatic proces is trying to find the one who looks in the head - And it keeps failing.
I have to sit with this question a bit, doesn´t make sense to look for a who, when no who is looking..

What is the problem, though, if "I" can't be located
anywhere at the end of search?

No problem, as nothing will change because no "I" was there to begin with...


Sometimes I feel like I´m experiencing a little realisation, but I wonder if thoughts are just very clever and it´s an intellectual understanding masking as if.


Peace Kento,

Have a nice weekend, looking forward to continue looking:)

Hello, Pedersen. :)

Sounds nice, hope it was a good trip for the kids:-)

Thanks Pedersen! It seems they enjoyed the trip.

Impossible to grasp it, the thought disappeared:-)

Good, do you feel the dreamlike quality of recalled scenes = past?

It´s difficult to answer this.. been trying to answer this for 10 minutes now, it´s just all the objects of awareness such as sensations on the body, sounds etc. with thoughts claiming they are happening to a self. The illusion is so persistent that when I sit and no thoughts claim anything (for a brief time), it´s just implicit that objects are percieved by a self located in the head.
I then look for this assumed self, and it´s not there of course.

Please feel again the "self" assumed to be in the head.

Can you feel the sensations in the head?
Does any particular (distinct) sensation appear there?

Does that sensation happen "inside" the head?
Are sensations felt inside and outside?

I wonder if there is an underlaying silent thought which is not heard commenting that is constantly keeping the illusion of a self alive?
I can´t answer this question.. I can´t find anything other than sensations on the body, eyes seeing, thoughts commenting, hearing sounds. No self is experiencing these objects.

Even if you know that a mirage is an optical illusion,
you'll still see a mirage as it looks like.

You, however, know that it isn't real, so even if you see
something terrifying in it, you won't care.


Does this make sense?


Could you tell me what you think happens
when seeing through the illusion of self?

My first thought is that it feels like there´s a ghost in the bottle(body) that can´t be defined and who is experiencing inputs from the sense organs. I keep looking, and I can´t locate "myself" anywhere..
Maybe I need to look deeper before it can be realised.

Keep LOOKing.

Is there "inside" and "outside" of the body?

Without any thought or knowledge about the body,
how can you tell the difference between the two?

You´re right, it seems I was creating an explanation based on thoughts about what was experienced. Memories and the past are not real.

NIce!

There is no one who looks, it happens automatically. This Automatic proces is trying to find the one who looks in the head - And it keeps failing.
I have to sit with this question a bit, doesn´t make sense to look for a who, when no who is looking..

This sounds like you've already grasped it intellectually.

What is it that is hindering your experiential understanding?

Can you feel it?

No problem, as nothing will change because no "I" was there to begin with...

Sometimes I feel like I´m experiencing a little realisation, but I wonder if thoughts are just very clever and it´s an intellectual understanding masking as if.

Did you feel that some kind of shift has happened, or is happening?


Thanks for your diligence and honesty, Pedersen. :)
You're doing very well ...

Regards,


Kento

Hi Kento

Sorry that I didn´t reply yesterday.

Good, do you feel the dreamlike quality of recalled scenes = past?

Yes quite clearly.

Please feel again the "self" assumed to be in the head.

Can you feel the sensations in the head?
Does any particular (distinct) sensation appear there?

Does that sensation happen "inside" the head?
Are sensations felt inside and outside?

At this moment the only sensation in my head appears to be a slight pressure, coming from a little too much coffee. My immediate response is that the pressure is localised in the head. When I put my attention on sense objects and really try to see where they appear, I sporadically experience everything to appear in the same place - a place which I can´t define with location and borders.
Therefore - my immediate experience is that the pressure appears inside the head, and when looking further it´s like it doesn´t appear either inside nor outside. Hmm, hope it makes sense:-)

Even if you know that a mirage is an optical illusion,
you'll still see a mirage as it looks like.

You, however, know that it isn't real, so even if you see
something terrifying in it, you won't care.


Does this make sense?

Yes it makes sense, I like the analogy.

Could you tell me what you think happens
when seeing through the illusion of self?

An experience of oneness, not feeling separate - Not identifying with ego/thoughts. A permanent change of perspective such that the sense of self is seen as an illussion at all times. In practice, feelings of anger would not stick and no story develop, when someone skip the line in the supermarket. Or for instance no having any fear of public speaking, because of the realisation that no self can be humiliated - etc.
In a sentence, a change of perspective and not a change in state of concioussness.

Actually, whenever something happens that cause anger for instance, if I then try to experience the reality of the situation, then the anger is disarmed. I would feel a sensation, maybe in the chest and would notice a story developing by thoughts, then I would ask if there is actually a self experiencing this - And anger disappears when no self is found.
The above is a process and doesn´t feel Automatic, rather it feels like I need to put effort into this - sometimes the story develops like it has always done before and sometimes I stop it by asking if there is really someone experiencing it.

Keep LOOKing.

Is there "inside" and "outside" of the body?

No, when really looking there is no location to sensations - and in terms of seeing, there is just the image of a couple of arms, stomach and a couple of legs.

This sounds like you've already grasped it intellectually.

What is it that is hindering your experiential understanding?

Can you feel it?

I´m not sure, perhaps old habits of identifying with thoughts. I feel it´s a matter of just forgetting to put attention on what is real, and then it slips away and back to how reality has always been percieved. But as I mentioned some posts ago, attention on direct experience is happening more and more.

Did you feel that some kind of shift has happened, or is happening?

Yes definately, compared to how I used to percieve reality I am much more often having a direct experience of being aware of everything as just objects, and that thoughts are NOT the self but also just objects - Also that no self can be located.


Thank you for the kind words Kento, I´ll continue to look for a self in direct experience, I feel it´s deepening more and more. At some points the thoughts have to let go of believing I guess:-)

Have a nice day.

Warm regards,
Pedersen

Hi Pedersen! :)

At this moment the only sensation in my head appears to be a slight pressure, coming from a little too much coffee. My immediate response is that the pressure is localised in the head. When I put my attention on sense objects and really try to see where they appear, I sporadically experience everything to appear in the same place - a place which I can´t define with location and borders.
Therefore - my immediate experience is that the pressure appears inside the head, and when looking further it´s like it doesn´t appear either inside nor outside. Hmm, hope it makes sense:-)

Yes, yes. It can't really be located.
So, what is it? Can you LOOK again and describe it?

An experience of oneness, not feeling separate - Not identifying with ego/thoughts. A permanent change of perspective such that the sense of self is seen as an illussion at all times. In practice, feelings of anger would not stick and no story develop, when someone skip the line in the supermarket. Or for instance no having any fear of public speaking, because of the realisation that no self can be humiliated - etc.
In a sentence, a change of perspective and not a change in state of concioussness.

Once the shift happens, it can't be reversed.

Still, the imaginary self would at times pop up, which is
perfectly OK.

Life embraces everything, including fear, anger,
all those "negative" emotions, the imaginary self, and lets them be ... lets them go.

We somehow assume that this "self" can do something with
Life, interfering with it. It can't, because it is imaginary, like a ghost.

This assumption is strong enough to leave some scent even after
it's uprooted. Then, the only thing is ... to keep LOOKing!
Illusion pops up, then LOOK, it vanishes.

LOOKing becomes natural, just like breathing ...

Actually, whenever something happens that cause anger for instance, if I then try to experience the reality of the situation, then the anger is disarmed. I would feel a sensation, maybe in the chest and would notice a story developing by thoughts, then I would ask if there is actually a self experiencing this - And anger disappears when no self is found.
The above is a process and doesn´t feel Automatic, rather it feels like I need to put effort into this - sometimes the story develops like it has always done before and sometimes I stop it by asking if there is really someone experiencing it.

Good! As I've told you before, KEEP LOOKING!

No, when really looking there is no location to sensations - and in terms of seeing, there is just the image of a couple of arms, stomach and a couple of legs.

Nice!

I´m not sure, perhaps old habits of identifying with thoughts. I feel it´s a matter of just forgetting to put attention on what is real, and then it slips away and back to how reality has always been percieved. But as I mentioned some posts ago, attention on direct experience is happening more and more.

Good! Keep LOOKing ... for whom is Life, including forgetfulness,
a problem?

Yes definately, compared to how I used to percieve reality I am much more often having a direct experience of being aware of everything as just objects, and that thoughts are NOT the self but also just objects - Also that no self can be located.

Do you feel that you have experientially seen through the illusion of separate entity
called "I," "me," or "self?"

Thank you for the kind words Kento, I´ll continue to look for a self in direct experience, I feel it´s deepening more and more. At some points the thoughts have to let go of believing I guess:-)

Believing happens, and it goes, when it isn't grasped.
But who is grasping? Can you locate the grasper?

Peace,

Kento

Hi Kento :-)

Yes, yes. It can't really be located.
So, what is it? Can you LOOK again and describe it?

I´m not sure what to look for and describe? In terms of the pressure, this was just a specific sensation which thoughts assumed to be located in the head - which in fact wasn´t located anywhere, head is a concept.
All that can be seen when looking is objects which appear in the same undefined space.

LOOKing becomes natural, just like breathing ...

Thoughts say that they look forward to when LOOKing settles and become more permanent than sporadic:-)

Good! Keep LOOKing ... for whom is Life, including forgetfulness,
a problem?

Either thoughts pop up or they don´t, the space in which thoughts appear doesn´t care. If forgetting is seen as a problem, this would be conceptualising as it is only a problem for thoughts.
For whom is life a problem - when trying to feel this question, I would say there is no problem, it is what it is. When there is no self, there is just flow.

Do you feel that you have experientially seen through the illusion of separate entity
called "I," "me," or "self?"

I wanna be carefull in answering this, because I don´t want thoughts/ego to say it when in fact it is merely an intellectual understanding with a slight feeling of getting it. But, I would say more YES than NO - Direct experience is more a simple breakdown of sensory inputs appearing in no space, than happening to a self and a body in spacetime. This is how I would answer right now.

Believing happens, and it goes, when it isn't grasped.
But who is grasping? Can you locate the grasper?

The grasper is a thought trying to grasp a group of thoughts/beliefs - it´s conceptual and can´t be done.

Thank you for the nice questions, I actually feel a Little Dizzy from answering them:-)

Have a nice evening, Peace Kento,
Pedersen

Hi Pedersen! :)

I´m not sure what to look for and describe? In terms of the pressure, this was just a specific sensation which thoughts assumed to be located in the head - which in fact wasn´t located anywhere, head is a concept.
All that can be seen when looking is objects which appear in the same undefined space.

Great LOOKing, Pedersen. :)

Thoughts say that they look forward to when LOOKing settles and become more permanent than sporadic:-)

Do thoughts look forward to something?


Can anything be permanent?

Please LOOK in your direct experience and find
what is permanent.

Is the memory of 2 minutes ago REAL in a sense that
it can be sensed with five senses, just like NOW?

Either thoughts pop up or they don´t, the space in which thoughts appear doesn´t care. If forgetting is seen as a problem, this would be conceptualising as it is only a problem for thoughts.
For whom is life a problem - when trying to feel this question, I would say there is no problem, it is what it is. When there is no self, there is just flow.

Beautiful ... :)

I wanna be carefull in answering this, because I don´t want thoughts/ego to say it when in fact it is merely an intellectual understanding with a slight feeling of getting it. But, I would say more YES than NO - Direct experience is more a simple breakdown of sensory inputs appearing in no space, than happening to a self and a body in spacetime. This is how I would answer right now.

Does the thought "I have experientially seen through the illusion of separate entity
called 'I,' 'me,' or 'self'" appear?

When thoughts don't appear, can you still FEEL the shift or not?

The grasper is a thought trying to grasp a group of thoughts/beliefs - it´s conceptual and can´t be done.

Does a thought even try something?

Take a look at one of the thoughts and examine if
it tries to do something.

Thank you for the nice questions, I actually feel a Little Dizzy from answering them:-)

Relax, relax. We can go slowly, but be constant.
LOOKing has been great so far ... no worries. :)


Have a nice day, Pedersen. :)

Kento

Hi Kento

Do thoughts look forward to something?

No, thoughts only comment.

Can anything be permanent?

No, nothing is permanent, everything is in flux and changes constantly. There are waves of identifying with thoughts and putting attention on LOOKing. When LOOKing, thoughts say that the self is looking forward to when the waves of identifying with thoughts subside.
Of course, no one is saying this or actually looking forward to anything.

Is the memory of 2 minutes ago REAL in a sense that
it can be sensed with five senses, just like NOW?

Memories are merely objects like thoughts. In my direct experience the thought of the past is experienced but the past itself is a concept - There is only now.

Does the thought "I have experientially seen through the illusion of separate entity
called 'I,' 'me,' or 'self'" appear?

No this thought doesn´t appear. The thought "Who is looking for a separate self" appears - There is an experience of the thoughts appearing in a space without location and qualities.

When thoughts don't appear, can you still FEEL the shift or not?

Yes, when no thoughts appear, other salient objects appear or become more apparent in the undefinable space. The experience is the same whether thoughts appear or not.

Does a thought even try something? Take a look at one of the thoughts and examine if
it tries to do something.

No, this implies volition - Thoughts pop up and fade away. It doesn´t matter what the thought itself says, it can´t "do" anything.

Relax, relax. We can go slowly, but be constant.
LOOKing has been great so far ... no worries. :)

Thanks Kento, I find it quite intriguing to LOOK and like corresponding with you - so no need to go slowly for my sake:-)
Sometimes I´m in doubt if I LOOK the correct way, but then I identify the doubt as just a thought and find no self in doubt - the doubt disappears. No matter where this leads, it´s a quite powerful way to disarm negative emotions


A nice day to you Kento:-)

Pedersen

Greetings, Pedersen. :)

No, thoughts only comment.

Right. Thoughts can refer to something, but thoughts themselves simply
appear and disappear ...

No, nothing is permanent, everything is in flux and changes constantly. There are waves of identifying with thoughts and putting attention on LOOKing. When LOOKing, thoughts say that the self is looking forward to when the waves of identifying with thoughts subside.
Of course, no one is saying this or actually looking forward to anything.

Good!

Memories are merely objects like thoughts. In my direct experience the thought of the past is experienced but the past itself is a concept - There is only now.

Yes, yes. :) What do you feel when you recognize that there is only now?

Is "now" graspable?
Could you try to grasp it in any way?

No this thought doesn´t appear. The thought "Who is looking for a separate self" appears - There is an experience of the thoughts appearing in a space without location and qualities.

Is that the same for the thought "I?"

Is "I" locatable?

Does it have a special quality that other thoughts don't have?

Yes, when no thoughts appear, other salient objects appear or become more apparent in the undefinable space. The experience is the same whether thoughts appear or not.

Where can you locate the separate self, without the thought "I?"

No, this implies volition - Thoughts pop up and fade away. It doesn´t matter what the thought itself says, it can´t "do" anything.

Very clear ...

Thanks Kento, I find it quite intriguing to LOOK and like corresponding with you - so no need to go slowly for my sake:-)
Sometimes I´m in doubt if I LOOK the correct way, but then I identify the doubt as just a thought and find no self in doubt - the doubt disappears. No matter where this leads, it´s a quite powerful way to disarm negative emotions

Glad that I can be here to help you ... :)


Have a nice day, Pedersen.

Kento

Hi Kento:-)

Yes, yes. :) What do you feel when you recognize that there is only now?

Much more aware of what is happening - sounds, sight, sensations, thoughts etc. No all consuming thoughts about past and future.

Is "now" graspable?
Could you try to grasp it in any way?

Whenever you try to grasp an object in the "now", it will become something else, it will become an idea of the past. Everything is impermanent and in flux, therefore it´s not possible to grasp the "now".

Is that the same for the thought "I?"

Is "I" locatable?

Does it have a special quality that other thoughts don't have?

"I" would say that it´s just another sound/thought appearing with the rest of the blabber. "I" can´t be located.

Where can you locate the separate self, without the thought "I?"

Can´t be located. Without the thought "I", there is just the experience in itself. For instance, I am drinking water, would just be the experience - sound of swallowing, sensations from the water, image of a hand with a glas, etc.

Warm regards,
Pedersen

Hello, Pedersen! :)

Much more aware of what is happening - sounds, sight, sensations, thoughts etc. No all consuming thoughts about past and future.

Yes, what is happening Here and Now ...

Whenever you try to grasp an object in the "now", it will become something else, it will become an idea of the past. Everything is impermanent and in flux, therefore it´s not possible to grasp the "now".

No past, no future, no "now" are graspable ...

Does time exist as reality, or is it more like a concept?

"I" would say that it´s just another sound/thought appearing with the rest of the blabber. "I" can´t be located.

Does the "I" exist in any form other than a thought?

Can´t be located. Without the thought "I", there is just the experience in itself. For instance, I am drinking water, would just be the experience - sound of swallowing, sensations from the water, image of a hand with a glas, etc.

Well said, Pedersen ... :)

Now, do you have anything you want to further clarify?


Peace,

Kento