silecram, please come in.

Postby **Ilona** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:14 pm

well well. this is exactly the right question you asked. can you answer it? is it possible? is it true already?

Postby **silecram** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:03 pm

well well. this is exactly the right question you asked. can you answer it? is it possible? is it true already?

Dear Ilona,

it is definately true already that i is just a thought, there is no me to find.

but it doesn't take away the story... it doesn't feel liberated since i am still there even tho it's seen i am is just a thought...

am going as much as posible back to nothing, my true nature... but i keep pulling out and escaping in activities...

<3

Dirk

Postby **Ilona** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:58 pm

hahaha, you think that liberation takes away the story. nope...
does story need an i to continue? It was going on since a little baby silecram was born and it will carry on till the day that body dies and after..

check, what is it that drives the story? can you locate a driver? Can you see the character that is just playing out it's role perfectly? just life PLAYING out?

see what you find.

Postby **silecram** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:25 pm

check, what is it that drives the story? can you locate a driver? Can you see the character that is just playing out it's role perfectly? just life PLAYING out?

So here i am:)

had a busy few days daeling with stories and pulling out of them, haha:)

Does the story needs an i to continue? I don't think so, it continues anyway, with or without i.

Since i took Kambo the headache totally left the body, it's a miracle medicine! and it makes the story bearable and easier...

what drives the story? life itself! i can only locate i, i, i, i, (thoughts so)... and beyond that there is NOTHING (and from there all play's out perfectely)
...
there was a deep sense of joy while reading your previous reply... it's so easy!!!

But who finds it easy?

it's still me :-)

Postby **Ilona** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:29 pm

good one.
Now have a look, what is the difference between I and ME.
is there anything behind ME?

Postby **silecram** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:42 pm

Now have a look, what is the difference between I and ME.
is there anything behind ME?

the difference between i and me is that all the little I's become a me... so without I no me...

Behind me there is as much nothing as behind I, hahahaha

so what to do, lol :)

Postby **Ilona** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:14 pm

hahaha! got it.
sooo, what is me?

Postby **silecram** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:26 pm

me is nothing

Postby **Ilona** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:28 pm

Cool. So how does it feel to be free?

Truth will set you free.

Postby **silecram** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:10 pm

it feels like hahahahahaha, one big joke! :-)

... just went for a walk in nature and there was a HUGE 'I' THOUGHT in the back of the head entertaining me all way long with different I stories, one after the other... i can 'feel' or 'see' beyond there is nothing, peace, emptiness ... but this thoughts are way stronger than the feeling of liberation...

:-)

Postby **Ilona** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:59 am

It is a one big cosmic joke. Yes, hahaha!

How does the I thought feel today? Is there an entity behind it? Does I word point to anything? Do you exist?

Truth will set you free.

Postby **silecram** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:31 am

How does the I thought feel today? Is there an entity behind it? Does I word point to anything? Do you exist?

Well 'i' wakes up and feels bored, nothing to do, no thing interesting, empty 'life', failed story... so 'i' looks for fullfilment but doesn't find any :-), also hahaha, 'i' don't care, because i see it's only a story... may-be 'i' should create a better story and find some things to do out there, i still have this body... and there is no meaning at all in anything 'i' do, hardly do anything anyway... the 'i' wants something do do, the 'i' wants meaning!!!

so 'i' look for 'i' and off course, it's just a thought, again, every 'i' is a thought...

'i' points to 'me' (body/mind) what's a creation of itself, hahahah...

i fucking don't exist but i still appear here and it's kinda BORING, lol

going in circles Ilona, will we keep on 'talking' like this for years ? :-)

Have a nice sunday :-)

Postby **Ilona** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:41 pm

Cool! Seems that you are through.
Is there any doubt at all in there?
And what was that last push? Can you look back and tell me where was that turning point?

No we are not gonna talk like this for a year, hihi. A bit of time needed to settle and the rest is just a ride without driver- such fun!

Truth will set you free.

Postby **silecram** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:51 pm

Is there any doubt at all in there?
And what was that last push? Can you look back and tell me where was that turning point?

No doubt at all here but neither sat chit ananda

the i sees true itself but in my opinion this ain't liberation, it's just the i seeing it's nature, non existing... but then still, who am i before i am?! i c nothing, so where are the masters talking about, where is the bliss, the pure conscienceness, the love? there is nothing of it!

the last push, the turning point? really i don't know, at the moment, i don't know anything...

it's just another trap...

:)

Postby **Ilona** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:31 pm

So let's see once again, what do you expect the liberation be/ feel like? Is there anything to gain? There is no boom and no angels gonna sing. You will not fly or loose all senses and you still chop wood carry water.
Is there anything missing that isn't here already?

It's just a drop of belief. Like santa. Do you believe that there is an entity behind I?

Truth will set you free.