Contraction comes and goes, I'm making "I" out of contraction ...So ‘I’ is not permanent? It comes and goes? Where does it go too? How does it come and go?
Yes, very clear - and yes, have been trying to understand. stopping now.You already experience the problem with words trying to explain this – do you see my point here?
The first time, it went quicker, it felt in my head, entertaining, even to write "I'm bored" had a quality of dramatic enactment to it, a personality. At one point I thought of an action and wrote that I did it before I actually did -I noticed the "I" was loud and the 'me' was quieter. Naturally went back and forth between narration and no-pronoun. the "I" squeezed, analytical.What do you notice from doing the two looking exercises? Which feels truer?
Im not sure Im understanding you here. Is contraction a label for a sensation or what you call your sense of ‘I’? Or is it a story you have attached to your sense of ‘I’?Contraction comes and goes, I'm making "I" out of contraction ...
What do you mean by ‘I’ is loud? Do you mean the voice in your head? Or your character? What do you mean by ‘me’ was quieter? Are you attaching noise to a label?The first time, it went quicker, it felt in my head, entertaining, even to write "I'm bored" had a quality of dramatic enactment to it, a personality. At one point I thought of an action and wrote that I did it before I actually did -I noticed the "I" was loud and the 'me' was quieter. Naturally went back and forth between narration and no-pronoun. the "I" squeezed, analytical. Second one was quiet - I noticed a couple times wanting to write 'my', but 'my' was noisy. Then it stopped. TIme was slower. Had dimentionality to it in space. More present feeling. Open.
Contraction is physical squeeze in gut, and when I feel it, I sense "I" at the same time. And yes, the sense of "I" comes and goes based upon attention and physical contraction.Im not sure Im understanding you here. Is contraction a label for a sensation or what you call your sense of ‘I’? Or is it a story you have attached to your sense of ‘I’?
Does your sense of ‘I’ come and go? If so where does it go?
Think and read auditorily - so yes, volume increases and decreases. Strength of self also increases and decrease with volume. And yes, I am attaching the strength of "I" to the volume and for some reason it seems to be different based upon type of self-referencing. Sorry if that isn't clear. Don't how else to put it.What do you mean by ‘I’ is loud? Do you mean the voice in your head? Or your character? What do you mean by ‘me’ was quieter? Are you attaching noise to a label?
Contraction is physical squeeze in gut, and when I feel it, I sense "I" at the same time. And yes, the sense of "I" comes and goes based upon attention and physical contraction.
So – your sense of ‘you’ comes with physical sensation and emotion? But is not constant? So there are times when you don’t feel – or are not aware of a sense of ‘you’ at all? So when your sense of you comes with a squeezing sensation in the gut – is the sense of you in the gut also – or is it somewhere else? Where is it when emotion occurs? Does the sense of you move?Insight into "noise": grumblings of disliking, minor irritation, and "I" is mixed up in that.
Is this what you experience – a loud noise increasing and decreasing – or is it a thought describing what it thinks is happening? We call this story – one thought following another thought. Now you may have to wait for the next time that happens to check. Look at what is actually experienced – and that may include thoughts. Can you watch thoughts from a distance – being aware but not following content?Think and read auditorily - so yes, volume increases and decreases. Strength of self also increases and decrease with volume. And yes, I am attaching the strength of "I" to the volume and for some reason it seems to be different based upon type of self-referencing. Sorry if that isn't clear. Don't how else to put it.
I will have to be diligent here - as I know there is something I am missing in awareness, because when I sense "I" - I can't find it in place/space - "I" doesn't know where it is. No sense of body or in the body - truly perplexing. Will continue to investigate and get back to you.So when your sense of you comes with a squeezing sensation in the gut – is the sense of you in the gut also – or is it somewhere else? Where is it when emotion occurs? Does the sense of you move?
Yes, the volume and clarity of the inner dialog increases and then trails of... I hear voices of personalities in my head - the feelings narrate auditorily how they feel. So that is story? -Is this what you experience – a loud noise increasing and decreasing
Yes, sometimes I am 'in' the thoughts, sometimes I am at a distance.Can you watch thoughts from a distance – being aware but not following content?
... does it feel like its in the centre or middle of experience (at the center, or can not be found in space), is it solid or thick (solid), does it feel fixed or permanent (constant, but only when it is there), is it inside the body or part of the body (can not find in relationship to body), does it change (yes), does it feel uniquely different and separate (yes), does it become more or less solid or obvious depending on experience (yes), does it have colour or shape or texture (no), is it small or large (??), does this self own the body or the thoughts and feelings it experiences (thoughts, feelings and experiences)?For instance does it feel like its in the centre or middle of experience, is it solid or thick, does it feel fixed or permanent, is it inside the body or part of the body, does it change, does it feel uniquely different and separate, does it become more or less solid or obvious depending on experience, does it have colour or shape or texture, is it small or large, does this self own the body or the thoughts and feelings it experiences?
Is it made up of thoughts and feelings, sensations, emotions, likes and dislikes, opinions, memories and experiences, perceptions, character and personality, does this self decide, chose, act, do and control? Anything else? Is there a time when the self is not experienced?
This feels more relevant, like not just a theory.Sarah7 wrote:
There is absolutely no "you" in any way, shape, or form. No "you" thinking your thoughts. No "you" living your life. There never has been a "you" nor will there ever be. Take those statements deep inside. Really let them sink in. What physical sensations do you notice? What thoughts do you notice? What feelings do you notice?
So where does it go? Or is it just noticed it isn’t there?(solid)(constant, but only when it is there)
does this self decide, chose, act, do and control(no, but it tries)
Lets have a look at thoughts.Noticed release tonight ... relaxation when it became clear that experience is also not proof of separate "I", and further, that what has not been given up is all these ways "I" distracts to keep one/me in imagination, stirring up emotions seems to be effective. a general state of 'upset'
Would you like me to list them to you, or as an exercise?List them in detail.
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