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Re: Need a Guide

Postby paradox » Thu May 02, 2013 4:13 am

Damn. It happened. Basically just sit back and watch the movie right?

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Re: Need a Guide

Postby Behzad » Thu May 02, 2013 6:54 am

Who/what is watching the movie?

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Re: Need a Guide

Postby paradox » Thu May 02, 2013 12:19 pm

no one. the movie watches itself.

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Re: Need a Guide

Postby Behzad » Thu May 02, 2013 4:13 pm

no one. the movie watches itself.
Can you clarify the answer please, how can a movie watch itself?
And
Are there any doubts about there being an I here or not?

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Re: Need a Guide

Postby paradox » Thu May 02, 2013 5:01 pm

no one. the movie watches itself.
Can you clarify the answer please, how can a movie watch itself?
And
Are there any doubts about there being an I here or not?

by being aware of being aware. i look at whats around "me" without judging and all thats left is truth

No there is no I.

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Re: Need a Guide

Postby Behzad » Thu May 02, 2013 5:58 pm

How do you see thoughts, are the thoughts youre thoughts?

Is there anything you control?

When seeing is happening is there a seer seeing?

Explain in detail please, not any short answers, thanks.

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Re: Need a Guide

Postby paradox » Thu May 02, 2013 6:30 pm

1.How do you see thoughts, are the thoughts youre thoughts?
The thoughts are not mine. Just an impatient mind struggling to make sense of the world it. Unnecessary, seeing is easy, everything is within sight. Wow...thoughts sound like noise. Start and end just like music. Experienced and passed.

2.Is there anything you control?
No. There's nothing to control. Life happens and the body reacts. The mind adds noise, noise which can be very distracting by creating labels and stories but it isn't "me." That would just be another concept stuck on reality and I still can't find "me" in reality.

3.When seeing is happening is there a seer seeing?
No. Just seeing happening. "My" eyes is easy to hear but impossible to see. So it can't be real. Just like "my" legs and "my" feet seem so silly now. Just legs and feet.

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Re: Need a Guide

Postby Behzad » Thu May 02, 2013 6:38 pm

Good work Tarek, keep going and answer these questions please...

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it
works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this
dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything
happen? Give examples from your experience.
6) Anything to add?

Take youre time to answer these questions.

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Re: Need a Guide

Postby paradox » Fri May 03, 2013 1:34 am

1.How do you see thoughts, are the thoughts youre thoughts?
The thoughts are not mine. Just an impatient mind struggling to make sense of the world it. Unnecessary, seeing is easy, everything is within sight. Wow...thoughts sound like noise. Start and end just like music. Experienced and passed.

2.Is there anything you control?

No. There's nothing to control. Life happens and the body reacts. The mind adds noise, noise which can be very distracting by creating labels and stories but it isn't "me." That would just be another concept stuck on reality and I still can't find "me" in reality.


1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

No, just the fear of the unknown. REalizing the one thing I thought was 100% real wasn't anywhere in reality makes it easy to see the truth. there was never me, just this moment. Even the seeking was just my mind getting caught up in a false reality of a future "enlightenment".

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it
works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

Seperate self is just like a never ending bedtime story. Designed to keep the mind entertained and away from awareness. Concepts, and labels appeared when I began to feel like "I" was the center of the universe. "I", the pilot looking out controlling the ride of life. but how can I be apart of the universe and separate from it ?

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this
dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

It feels liberating. Everything I was puzzled over these past months makes perfect sense. Its almost scary. It is kind of scary but I feel no more doubts because "I" isn't even here anymore. A few days ago, I would say the biggest difference was a huge wave of being unsure. I identified with it so strongly with that it started affecting all areas of my life and just making me anxious in general. Dropping "I" was gradual but once it happened I noticed and now its hard to explain, its like i keep noticing

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

Listening to music. Specifically, watching the video to Across the Universe by Fiona Apple. I had never seen the video but I knew the song and of course m y mind got caught up in it. But the video concept seemed just like the concept I had trouble of dropping. having fiona listening to music still,content and just present, with all that violence surrounding her made me think of my relationship with thoughts. I knew thoughts controlled me but I never LOOKED to see why. Even the words helped. "Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup" thoughts are just words. those four words did it, because it had to be true and "I" is just a word.

5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything
happen? Give examples from your experience.

No. Its just flowing. Time seems slowed down. Less of a tendency to look at the clock. Concentration is natural. Not focusin on "myself" means awareness sees everything.

6) Anything to add?

Every moment is new. This can't be unseen can it?

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Re: Need a Guide

Postby Behzad » Fri May 03, 2013 10:52 am

Once this is truly seen, it cant be unseen. How can you belive in something once you have seen that it is unreal? This can be verify whenever you want by simply looking and seeing the truth about the I/Me.

I am going to let some guides go through youre answers and see if they have any questions for you : )

I will let you know as soon as I know...

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Re: Need a Guide

Postby paradox » Fri May 03, 2013 1:21 pm

Once this is truly seen, it cant be unseen. How can you belive in something once you have seen that it is unreal? This can be verify whenever you want by simply looking and seeing the truth about the I/Me.

I am going to let some guides go through youre answers and see if they have any questions for you : )

I will let you know as soon as I know...
Okay sounds good. Thanks so much, you don't know how much you've helped me.

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Re: Need a Guide

Postby Behzad » Fri May 03, 2013 7:01 pm

Its my pleasure Tarek and the guides were happy with youre answers : )
And I am also very glad to see you through my frieand.

Do you have facebook?

We have a facebook group specifically created for those who have newly crossed the gate and if you have questions or doubts, or just want to share your experience of seeing through the illusion of self with others, this is a place to connect and discuss all that comes up for you. Its a nice thing and also very helpful.

Let me know if you are intrested so we can ad you there if you want, send me a private message here and we will ad you : )

Take care
Behzad


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