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It feels like a great relief! It feels peaceful and easy.How does it feel?
Can you comment on the above quote ? ;)The difference between the Tooth Fairy and myself is that I seem real, because I can decide to do something and then do it, and it really happens. Also, almost all other sane adults believe that my self is real. I have a drivers license. I can own property. I am taken seriously in the world. All of the feedback is that my self is real.
"not so much?" In what ways is there a you to make decisions?making decisions doesn't seem so much like an act of personal will
So. How is your self different from the tooth fairy?It is just sensation and a cascade of thoughts.
Often in life there are two fairly equal choices, and I waver between them, and then it feels like I decide on one. I suppose their are really just two or more competing networks of thought on the matter. Sometimes I find it very slow and painful to make even simple decisions when I am tired. When I'm not sure, or options seem equal, it seems like a have a choice, and then I decide. I guess this isn't necessarily so. The "decider" part of the brain has never been found."not so much?" In what ways is there a you to make decisions?
In reality is isn't. Only I know, and feel certain, that the Tooth Fairy is a story, and I do not feel that same certainty about myself.So. How is your self different from the tooth fairy?
Please clarify. In reality your self is not different from the tooth fairy story, but you don't feel certainty about it?In reality is isn't. Only I know, and feel certain, that the Tooth Fairy is a story, and I do not feel that same certainty about myself.So. How is your self different from the tooth fairy?
I didn't say there is no them. Relationships are real, *and* a lot of stories exist around them. You know that.My relationships feel real. If there is really no me, and really no them, then what is the relationship?
You are right, my relationships are way easier this way! For specific examples, in conversation with my wife she cast me in an unflattering light, and in the past I would have defended my"self". Only this time, without a self, nothing was offended. Her comment was not taken personally, so there was no argument escalating into a fight. She observed something, and mentioned it, and I acknowledged her observation as being true, actually. I didn't need to go into a defensive discourse explaining myself.You'll see that your relationships will feel way more real - and way easier - than they do now.
Can you try and report back? With a specific example(s)?
Yes, that is why I am here. The self is a very destructive belief, I can see that now. If I let it go, nothing bad happens, in fact, good things happen!Jwhooper, are you ready to see that the assumption there is a self at the core of your life is a lie? Which, contrary to the belief in a tooth fairy, is hijacking your life. The lie is locking you into a treadmill where you try to defend/improve/get rid of (...) an imaginary self. It is time to step out of the treadmill.
This body is here, and this mind. The "me" never existed, but it is still trying to cling, trying to be relevant as the protector.Do you exist?
Yes, old conditioning doesn't disappear. Maybe over time. But now you see it as what it is: Beliefs "trying" to protect, and thereby form, an imaginary I.This body is here, and this mind. The "me" never existed, but it is still trying to cling, trying to be relevant as the protector.
When someone criticizes me, my reflex is to be defensive and to think "Well YOU aren't so perfect either" and to criticize back. Now I catch myself and see that there is nothing to defend. I actually listen to what is being said. This sometimes naturally leads to a positive change.How does the "clinging play out in your day-to-day life? Give me examples.