Need a push through the pinhole

[cosmiK]

Excellent :)

Are there any doubts about SEEing no-self?
Have you seen through the illusion of the separate self?



------if so, we can tackle these fully,

----- if not :) please answer the final questions :)


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Please answer in detail, each question, honestly and earnestly, and refer to direct experience. If the questions requires analysis and speculation, start with direct experience, here and now first, then let thoughts flow.

1) Is there a 'me' or 'you' or 'I' , at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?
Can there ever be?


1.5) When you say "I", what in Experience are you referring to?



2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works.



3) How does it FEEL to See? describe in detail.



4) How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about this illusion but is curious about it.



5) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look? was it gradual or more sudden?



6) describe the difference before seeing, at the moment of seeing, and after seeing? describe the key differences.



7) in what ways has Seeing changed 'your' life? what impact will this have on your life?


7.5) now that you see that 'you', the first person character at the core of life, isn't, what do you see when you see 'others'? explain in your own words from your direct experience.


8) what if i told you LU was a persuasion cult and we have just got you to believe that "there is no self". How would you respond?



9) do you have any comments about my guiding, what you feel was effective/ineffective, and something that you would have liked to have seen in it?

[Artsys]

Are there any doubts about SEEing no-self? No more.
Have you seen through the illusion of the separate self? There's been a seeing through. It's clear.



------if so, we can tackle these fully,

----- if not :) please answer the final questions :)


-->>


Please answer in detail, each question, honestly and earnestly, and refer to direct experience. If the questions requires analysis and speculation, start with direct experience, here and now first, then let thoughts flow.

1) Is there a 'me' or 'you' or 'I' , at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? No.
Was there ever?Never, regardless of the prior beliefs and ideas of having been a separate person.
Can there ever be?No, there can't.


1.5) When you say "I", what in Experience are you referring to? That which is Life itself. There is no longer an after thought or an attached 'i' preceding life events, thoughts or sensations. However, out of practical functioning and language dynamics there will be references to the Experience as an 'I', just not an attached personal belief as their previously was.



2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works.It's a conceptual buying into the belief that there is a 'me' persona that is the doer/thinker/feeler and creator of their inner and outer world. This belief occurs in a variety of ways and is substantiated from infancy through social, environmental, genetic conditioning. It continues as a result of maintaining an investment into the isolated fear based identity through creating me here-versus-you there, and building upon that throughout life in every instance. The belief structure needs emotional, mental and physical stimulation to maintain it's forefront as the captain of the ship. The dramas that the self will build for it's web keep it glued tightly into a self-inflicted prison of action-reaction claiming of any feelings/thought or emotions good or bad. All self referencing and driven by fear of non-existence.



3) How does it FEEL to See? describe in detail. Bizarre question. Sorta how does it feel to see without the coke bottle lenses of conditioned stupidity...! In all honesty, there was a sense of holy shit this is so F'ing simple. The seeing was always happening, but the layering on of ownership and controlling every outcome was exhaustive and inefficient. In a nutshell, it feels fantastic, but I'm not sure for who....Bless those that tolerated this 'me' *ghost in the machine* for the past 40 plus years.



4) How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about this illusion but is curious about it.
So, this is an interesting question. To put it best and as simplistic as possible, I would find one of those 3D images that holds a secondary image camouflaged within it (believe they're called magicEye images), and I would ask them to spot the hidden palm tree or what ever it is that is within the mosiac of 3D art. After they finally get it. I would say, how did you finally see it? The most likely answer would be. I changed the way I was looking at it; my perspective shifted and voila' there it was. I know I'm going on about something totally unrelated, but I feel it parallels the seeing of the simple, clear, present, LIFE that is obscured through incorrectly seeing. Most of our contemporaries tell us through books, videos and seminars to look from the perspective of their blindness, but when one comes along that has seen for themselves, the effect is profound due to having 'been there, done that'.

Lastly, not to be a crusader of 'no-selfism', I know that the seeing is best transmitted when one is sick and tired of something in their life as a result of ego-ification over the years, and the seeing happens of itself when the guide and 'self-blinded' person come together.




5) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look? was it gradual or more sudden?
I was sitting at a starbucks reading some of the testimonial's in Gatecrasher's and holy fuck, it all snapped. The place lit up inside and outside when the recognition of no-self became completely obvious and clear. The pointers and questions were great clarifiers and assisted in keeping the intent and focus going, but the work occurs individually and with great intent to be done fucking around with everything and get to the business of seeing the truth. It was suddenly gradual if that makes any sense, and the deepening is occurring as the words are appearing on the screen. Gratitude and utter respect for THIS. *THIS is unbelievable, but absolutely KNOWABLE with firsthand, direct seeing.



6) describe the difference before seeing, at the moment of seeing, and after seeing? describe the key differences.
Before: Everything was about me, happening to me, reflected by me, and filtered. There was un-ease and moments of pleasure to just add, rinse and repeat the vicious cycle of mental-emotional upheavals. Having a taste for spiritual things wasn't necessarily a bad thing, since it was used to soften the bark of the dense tree so it could finally be cut down.

Moment of: This brings a fresh smile, and soft shaking of my head. Referring back to the "MagicEye' 3D pictures, It was like I had the OMG, I SEE IT. and then I just put everything down and stayed with it, for as long as possible letting it soak in. Smiling, looking around at everything with a fresh seeing, almost like getting a 'new pair of glasses'. Life was unfettered. I was blinded by self, now I can see. Amazing Grace. LOL. (but serious.)

After: It's been 3 or 4 days, and it's deepening, clearing up. The first night I couldn't sleep, the enormity of what occurred to 'no-one' was profound. It released energy into my body and flooded my mind and emotions, that has since lulled, but remains as a subtle vibration. Less judgement or preferential mental processing of every piece of stimuli that entered my senses or mind. The thought 'bullet-train' seems to have stopped as well. This is very therapeutic for the WHOLE being-body that was doing the seeing, but it was the 'silver-bullet' for the 'me-self' that got caught in the crosshairs of direct observation.


7) in what ways has Seeing changed 'your' life? what impact will this have on your life? There's such a sense of .... unspeakable stillness. Still a bit in shock at the crispness of clarity. Like vision, and what filled my view is expanding. The bursts of reactive expression seem to have subsided, like 'there are no big deals', or things worth getting upset because the object that was charged by stimulus has been, well....nullified.


7.5) now that you see that 'you', the first person character at the core of life, isn't, what do you see when you see 'others'? explain in your own words from your direct experience.I see expressions of consciousness as they appear in my immediate experience. No label or judgement. I realized that a harshness of a usual critical mind pattern has begun to melt away. Things, including people all seem to be of the same intrinsic value. pure. alive. present.


8) what if i told you LU was a persuasion cult and we have just got you to believe that "there is no self". How would you respond? Thank you.



9) do you have any comments about my guiding, what you feel was effective/ineffective, and something that you would have liked to have seen in it? I liked your blog on DE and Doership. The exercises were helpful to suspend mind labeling activity and just see what the truth is. Also, your approach is sensible and to the point. I didn't want nor was there any need to fill these lines with personal stories about what I've read and how much experience with Non-Duality and such I have, or the people I've met on the circuits....you kept that out of your guiding approach as well, and it was noticed and appreciated.

LOVE is what remains. All appearing in LOVE.

[cosmiK]

wonderful :)

these responses are going to be given to the other guides for review and clarification. will be in touch shortly.

enjoi your Absence :)

with Love.

[cosmiK]

Confirmed and good to go! Have contacted you by PM :) <3

[Artsys]

Thanks for taking the time.