Hello, Arora...
i find it easier to be on automatic, no one doing it mode when its a difficult situation (had a few those lately) and can see mind racing and doing its job, on its own.
When life is flowing and busy, this works fine... But when the mind starts wandering or spinning stories you'll get drawn back in eventually...Seeing the illusion and recognizing there's nothing behind all these thoughts (without a doubt) will set you free. It's all in your head. If it's not REAL dump it! No matter how true it may seem, shed the light of truth and reality on it. If it's not solid and outside your head, you can't trust it.
However there seems to be voluntary thoughts that i seem to be able to superimpose..like 'look who is there whos stressed' or 'there is no one doing it' Are these just thoughts as well?
Sure these questions are fine, remember though that
there is no separate entity inside your head taking responsibility as a self. and replace "who" with "
what" because "who" imposes a separate self. You don't want to add any more confusion to the mix.
.why is this sense of volition though behind this voice that i can seem to force?
This thought pattern has been spinning since you were a child. It needs your attention and energy to stay alive or it no longer has power within the mind. Once the illusion is seen for what it is, it cannot be unseen. (Game Over.)
Remember the old saying seeing is believing? Same go's here.
Another little experience was at night lying in bed, kept going at it...trying to see who s behind the thoughts and suddenly felt the body filled with something like tingling sensation and acute awareness of body.
A personal question for you as well Cam, did you see this through similar inquiry or spontaneously or another method?
Remember there's nothing there? As challenge the thoughts as they come, the more intense or predominant the better...These are the one's that feed on your mental energy, they'll keep spinning and changing till you give in. Again "what's" there?...If you had your eye's closed while in bed your senses may have been heightened from the lack of sight at the moment, yet then again you may have been more in touch with your true essence within. We as guides are at odds regarding what to call this, it go's by many labels...I prefer to call 'it' pure, formless, energy. What else brings life?
I noted another guide had their condition as 'to stop any other seeking activity like reading, viewing, meditating etc'
Although i am not an arduous seeker, but i enjoy listening to youtube stuff, and a bit of reading nondual teachers almost on everyday basis. Did you have any comments/recommendations regarding this?
I said at the beginning of our conversation, basically the same thing. Until we are finished I prefer NOT to add any other distractions to the mix. You can revisit any of these you like once you're done.
What you need to do is look at real life instead. Drop all your beliefs and start from the ground up. Then look at what is real instead of trying to imagine some magical conceptualization of nothing and that would be a start. We are not asking you to drop a belief that you are believing.
We are asking you to suspend them and build a picture of reality from the ground up that is based on direct experience.
So outside of thought is there a you?
