If you think you can take the TRUTH, start here !
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Vladi ! Seriously ? This is what i waited 3 days to hear, lol,lol,lol !? Ok, obviously you should not have taken a break. What the heck is a "snack idee" ? What ? Does that mean you have the munchies because your smoking or something ??!! Were you stoned when you wrote this ? That would explain a lot ; ))
You're "expecting a shift in perception" ,lol ! Like when ?....in the "perceived" future ; ). ?
Your " thinking awakening will give you more peace and ease around people" ? Who the hell cares what other people think ? If that's what you want ,why didn't you just tell me you wanted lessons in how to be popular and influence people ? This site is not for that, it's for recognizing that none of that exists, not reinforcing it !
And...You are "seeking" because ALL the THINKING your doing is making you NUTS !!! STOP THINKING or come up with a better story. This one sucks !
Bottom line...there is NO VLADI, there is NO ,"snack idee" ,lol, or "expecting awakening" ! These are ALL just some story you are telling that you think is you. There is NO "YOU" ! It's an illusion . Its an identity you've attached to ,that you say is YOU.
GET "Vladi" the HELL out of the way ,and tell me what you see when you STOP telling this dumb story ?!! If you sit down and shut up ,you'll stop bouncing off the walls ! BE STILL and tell me what is on the other side of "your story".
Sending much "tough" LOVE your way, Rita ; )
You're "expecting a shift in perception" ,lol ! Like when ?....in the "perceived" future ; ). ?
Your " thinking awakening will give you more peace and ease around people" ? Who the hell cares what other people think ? If that's what you want ,why didn't you just tell me you wanted lessons in how to be popular and influence people ? This site is not for that, it's for recognizing that none of that exists, not reinforcing it !
And...You are "seeking" because ALL the THINKING your doing is making you NUTS !!! STOP THINKING or come up with a better story. This one sucks !
Bottom line...there is NO VLADI, there is NO ,"snack idee" ,lol, or "expecting awakening" ! These are ALL just some story you are telling that you think is you. There is NO "YOU" ! It's an illusion . Its an identity you've attached to ,that you say is YOU.
GET "Vladi" the HELL out of the way ,and tell me what you see when you STOP telling this dumb story ?!! If you sit down and shut up ,you'll stop bouncing off the walls ! BE STILL and tell me what is on the other side of "your story".
Sending much "tough" LOVE your way, Rita ; )
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Damn Rita, Ouch! That was tough love indeed.
I have trouble focusing after the break i had, cant seem to understand ur question properly.
But ok, *deep breath* Il try and focus again.
"BE STILL and tell me what is on the other side of "your story"."
I just feel resistence to this question, like i cant answer it. If i just sit, there is just the invoirment, my computer, feeling of sitting, some sounds outside. And A thought that ive lost focus that im having trouble not to belive in.
I have trouble focusing after the break i had, cant seem to understand ur question properly.
But ok, *deep breath* Il try and focus again.
"BE STILL and tell me what is on the other side of "your story"."
I just feel resistence to this question, like i cant answer it. If i just sit, there is just the invoirment, my computer, feeling of sitting, some sounds outside. And A thought that ive lost focus that im having trouble not to belive in.
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Also there is awerness of the story and feelings. So to the question whats on the other side of the story id say awerness of it.
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Welcome back !! Lets make sure you are consistent in answering every day and don't "take a break" until we're done with this. Agreed ?
"I just feel resistence to this question,like I can"t answer it" Who is resistant ?
"if I just sit,there is just the invoirnment, my computer.feeling of sitting,some sounds outside." THIS is TRUTH. The NOW.
"also there is awareness of the story and feelings. So to the question whats on the other side of the story id say awareness" Who is Aware ?
well done. I look forward to your answers. love Rita
"I just feel resistence to this question,like I can"t answer it" Who is resistant ?
"if I just sit,there is just the invoirnment, my computer.feeling of sitting,some sounds outside." THIS is TRUTH. The NOW.
"also there is awareness of the story and feelings. So to the question whats on the other side of the story id say awareness" Who is Aware ?
well done. I look forward to your answers. love Rita
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Yes! Agreed, no more breaks util this is done.
"Who is resistant ?"
I want to say I am, but the feeling comes up on its own from reading the question. Still, its a "me" kind of feeling.
"Who is Aware ? "
When i read that i could hear a thought go, " I am" That was oberved. I know im not creating awerness, its not something I "DO" its just there. Aware of it all, yet in that center of awerness It feels I am. Even if i dont think it, if im just in the now, It feels pesonal and that I am that center.
This questions didnt feel like they were in the right direction to be honest.
Much love Vladi
"Who is resistant ?"
I want to say I am, but the feeling comes up on its own from reading the question. Still, its a "me" kind of feeling.
"Who is Aware ? "
When i read that i could hear a thought go, " I am" That was oberved. I know im not creating awerness, its not something I "DO" its just there. Aware of it all, yet in that center of awerness It feels I am. Even if i dont think it, if im just in the now, It feels pesonal and that I am that center.
This questions didnt feel like they were in the right direction to be honest.
Much love Vladi
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hey Vladi ; ))
ok 2, things, #1, I thought we agreed ,no more preconcieved notions about this. What is a right or wrong question ? ALL questions serve a purpose ,whether you understand them or not.
#2, lets review REALITY; Reality is right here ,right now. You see it ,observe,notice it. THAT is REAL . Reality does NOT have opinions attached to it,it just is...right here right NOW.
So, when you say, " I want to say I am, but the feeling comes up on its own from reading the question. Still, its a "me" kind of feeling. Is that observing or is it having an opinion of a thought that appeared ? How can a feeling be "me" ? A feeling is just a feeling that appears. Can you see a real live, "me" in that feeling or is it just a thought you attach to the feeling ? Take your time and really LOOK. Is there a ME anywhere ?
When asked, Who is aware ? you answered, " when I read that I could hear a thought go, "I am" that was observed".
There is a thought. It is observed. If it is already being observed why the need to say, "I am" ? Observation is occuring, who is "I am" ? Can you see "I am" or are you just attaching to the thoughts by saying, "I am" ?
Can thoughts be stopped ?
Yes, there is Awareness but it is NOT personal. It observes. It is not Vladi or I am or ME. It just IS. There is no YOU. It is a story that you have nurtured and built since you were old enough to talk. Vladi is pure fiction, non existent, the lead character in "THE STORY OF VLADI". If the story of Vladi was removed or forgotten, would the body cease to exist ? Can Vladi control anything ? Or does it just appear that way ? LOOK . What do you see ?
I look forward to your answers. Take your time. Be still. Just observe and tell me what you see.
Much love : )) Rita
ok 2, things, #1, I thought we agreed ,no more preconcieved notions about this. What is a right or wrong question ? ALL questions serve a purpose ,whether you understand them or not.
#2, lets review REALITY; Reality is right here ,right now. You see it ,observe,notice it. THAT is REAL . Reality does NOT have opinions attached to it,it just is...right here right NOW.
So, when you say, " I want to say I am, but the feeling comes up on its own from reading the question. Still, its a "me" kind of feeling. Is that observing or is it having an opinion of a thought that appeared ? How can a feeling be "me" ? A feeling is just a feeling that appears. Can you see a real live, "me" in that feeling or is it just a thought you attach to the feeling ? Take your time and really LOOK. Is there a ME anywhere ?
When asked, Who is aware ? you answered, " when I read that I could hear a thought go, "I am" that was observed".
There is a thought. It is observed. If it is already being observed why the need to say, "I am" ? Observation is occuring, who is "I am" ? Can you see "I am" or are you just attaching to the thoughts by saying, "I am" ?
Can thoughts be stopped ?
Yes, there is Awareness but it is NOT personal. It observes. It is not Vladi or I am or ME. It just IS. There is no YOU. It is a story that you have nurtured and built since you were old enough to talk. Vladi is pure fiction, non existent, the lead character in "THE STORY OF VLADI". If the story of Vladi was removed or forgotten, would the body cease to exist ? Can Vladi control anything ? Or does it just appear that way ? LOOK . What do you see ?
I look forward to your answers. Take your time. Be still. Just observe and tell me what you see.
Much love : )) Rita
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Sure, but i was just beeing honest about how i felt.ok 2, things, #1, I thought we agreed ,no more preconcieved notions about this. What is a right or wrong question ? ALL questions serve a purpose ,whether you understand them or not.
That´s clear.#2, lets review REALITY; Reality is right here ,right now. You see it ,observe,notice it. THAT is REAL . Reality does NOT have opinions attached to it,it just is...right here right NOW.
No, I can´t see a "me", Ahh, this is hard. I get all confused here. A feeling is not me, becuse I see/feel it. But I am the one having that experience even if I cant see"Me" Thats how it feels. Just confusing here :/So, when you say, " I want to say I am, but the feeling comes up on its own from reading the question. Still, its a "me" kind of feeling. Is that observing or is it having an opinion of a thought that appeared ? How can a feeling be "me" ? A feeling is just a feeling that appears. Can you see a real live, "me" in that feeling or is it just a thought you attach to the feeling ? Take your time and really LOOK. Is there a ME anywhere ?
When asked, Who is aware ? you answered, " when I read that I could hear a thought go, "I am" that was observed".
There is a thought. It is observed. If it is already being observed why the need to say, "I am" ? Observation is occuring, who is "I am" ? Can you see "I am" or are you just attaching to the thoughts by saying, "I am" ?
Can thoughts be stopped ?
I dont know if u understood med here, I heard the thought go " I, am" i didnt say it, the thought just came up. It just repsonded to the question. Who is seeing that thought I asked myself, but then again that is another thought. :/// What is in the center of this experience? Its intelligence of some sort and that feels so ME. Just cant get past this! *frustrated and confused*
" If the story of Vladi was removed or forgotten, would the body cease to exist ?"Yes, there is Awareness but it is NOT personal. It observes. It is not Vladi or I am or ME. It just IS. There is no YOU. It is a story that you have nurtured and built since you were old enough to talk. Vladi is pure fiction, non existent, the lead character in "THE STORY OF VLADI". If the story of Vladi was removed or forgotten, would the body cease to exist ? Can Vladi control anything ? Or does it just appear that way ? LOOK . What do you see ?
Thats a good one, if I lost my memory the body would go on as usual, nothing would change exept there would be no personal memory in the experience. But the me feeling would still be there I belive, just a "I dont know who I am me"
It apears that Vladi can control some things, I cant stop the thought process but i can change it to some degree.
Also it feels like I am the one who chooses wich thought to focus on.
Well this is how it is now Rita. Much love.
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Hi ; )) I want you to relax. This is not a race or a competion. Ok ? When the confusion,anxiety come up, breath, let it come up and observe/examine it with NO opinion. Tell me what you observe. I am there with you. RELAX, OBSERVE with no opinion. What do you see ?
You know there is no "me" but you believe it is you experiencing it. Are YOU having the experience or is the body ? Or are you attaching YOU to it when the thought is noticed ? Tell me what you KNOW, not what you believe.
The intelligence at the center, go to it. Be still , relax. tell me what you KNOW, not what you think or believe.
Can Vladi REALLY control some things or is that a belief ? You ,yourself said, "it appears", that sounds like your not sure ? Do you KNOW or BELIEVE ?
Thoughts come and go. some are attached to ,some are not. But are they YOUR thoughts or do they just appear and then you make them "your thoughts" ? Tell me what you KNOW.
Take your time. release all notions of what you "think" awakening should feel or look like. this is not a race. I am there with you. Tell me only what you know and observe.
as always, with LOVE, Rita
You know there is no "me" but you believe it is you experiencing it. Are YOU having the experience or is the body ? Or are you attaching YOU to it when the thought is noticed ? Tell me what you KNOW, not what you believe.
The intelligence at the center, go to it. Be still , relax. tell me what you KNOW, not what you think or believe.
Can Vladi REALLY control some things or is that a belief ? You ,yourself said, "it appears", that sounds like your not sure ? Do you KNOW or BELIEVE ?
Thoughts come and go. some are attached to ,some are not. But are they YOUR thoughts or do they just appear and then you make them "your thoughts" ? Tell me what you KNOW.
Take your time. release all notions of what you "think" awakening should feel or look like. this is not a race. I am there with you. Tell me only what you know and observe.
as always, with LOVE, Rita
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What?!?! It´s not a race? Now you tell me. ;-))) Sure, ok. Ill keep that in mind.Hi ; )) I want you to relax. This is not a race or a competion. Ok ? When the confusion,anxiety come up, breath, let it come up and observe/examine it with NO opinion. Tell me what you observe. I am there with you. RELAX, OBSERVE with no opinion. What do you see ?
Yes, im still having the experience that "im" Seeing thougt´s. Also I see that thougts carry energy with them. Like the last couple of days my mind has been very negative and a story about what im supposed to do with my life keeps playing. I see the thoughts but still can feel kind of down becuse the energy that comes with thinking negative keeps sticking on "me" or in my experience. So thats what I see, that feelings keep sticking in my experience.You know there is no "me" but you believe it is you experiencing it. Are YOU having the experience or is the body ? Or are you attaching YOU to it when the thought is noticed ? Tell me what you KNOW, not what you believe.
The intelligence at the center, go to it. Be still , relax. tell me what you KNOW, not what you think or believe.
I can´t do that, feels like im crossing my eyes or something when i try. I cant go where am already at? :/
Well, in the past I have been able to change. Like if i have thoughts about going to the gym and working out them I have decided to to that. So there is control. I choose wich thought to follow and belive in.Can Vladi REALLY control some things or is that a belief ? You ,yourself said, "it appears", that sounds like your not sure ? Do you KNOW or BELIEVE ?
Thoughts come and go. some are attached to ,some are not. But are they YOUR thoughts or do they just appear and then you make them "your thoughts" ? Tell me what you KNOW.
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Hey darlin' ,as they say in the south ; ) nice ,honest stuff here...thank you ! So let's take a look at what it points to;
Where is this , "I'm" that's seeing thoughts. Can you SEE , "I'm" ? Describe it in detail ,please.
Also, please describe what a "thought" looks like, in detail.
"well in the past I have been able to change.like if I have thoughts about going to the gym and working out then I have decided to do that. So there is control. I choose which thoughts to follow or believe in". //. thoughts come and go. Some are attached to. They are just thoughts appearing. Any control is illusionary. The mind attaches to the thought with label,assumptions,expectations and judgements. They are just thoughts. Can you find an ,"I" anywhere ? Remember ,what you "see" is REAl, all else is illusion,even if it appears real. Please describe "I" in detail.
Take your time. Much love ,Rita
Where is this , "I'm" that's seeing thoughts. Can you SEE , "I'm" ? Describe it in detail ,please.
Also, please describe what a "thought" looks like, in detail.
"well in the past I have been able to change.like if I have thoughts about going to the gym and working out then I have decided to do that. So there is control. I choose which thoughts to follow or believe in". //. thoughts come and go. Some are attached to. They are just thoughts appearing. Any control is illusionary. The mind attaches to the thought with label,assumptions,expectations and judgements. They are just thoughts. Can you find an ,"I" anywhere ? Remember ,what you "see" is REAl, all else is illusion,even if it appears real. Please describe "I" in detail.
Take your time. Much love ,Rita
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Hey Vladi ; )) taking a break again ? or you ready to finally let go of "I" and see there never was an "I" except in the Story of Vladi.
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Hey Rita :-) Haha No, no more breaks. This is until the end.
Just a stuckness...
Sometimes, like in memorys its pictures, transparent in a way. Becuse I can look at the world and still se the picture in my head from the memory.
I cant find it, but the feeling is thats thoughs are directed to a "ME" I cant gt past that im not the one hearing them. Its really like im stuck.
I just get stuck in this, I feel I cant explain it. My mind just lock´s up. SO thats my experience from this question..Where is this , "I'm" that's seeing thoughts. Can you SEE , "I'm" ? Describe it in detail ,please.
Just a stuckness...
Its easy, for me its almost always like a silent voice. Sentencens, words being heard/seen.Also, please describe what a "thought" looks like, in detail.
Sometimes, like in memorys its pictures, transparent in a way. Becuse I can look at the world and still se the picture in my head from the memory.
"well in the past I have been able to change.like if I have thoughts about going to the gym and working out then I have decided to do that. So there is control. I choose which thoughts to follow or believe in". //. thoughts come and go. Some are attached to. They are just thoughts appearing. Any control is illusionary. The mind attaches to the thought with label,assumptions,expectations and judgements. They are just thoughts. Can you find an ,"I" anywhere ? Remember ,what you "see" is REAl, all else is illusion,even if it appears real. Please describe "I" in detail.
I cant find it, but the feeling is thats thoughs are directed to a "ME" I cant gt past that im not the one hearing them. Its really like im stuck.
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I really want this, im trying from al angels here, I rally am. I even get a headache from focusing. But I dont know what more to do, In what other way to look??Hey Vladi ; )) taking a break again ? or you ready to finally let go of "I" and see there never was an "I" except in the Story of Vladi.
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Wahoo !! You're back ! No snack-idees, right ?? ; )
knew you were made of sterner stuff ; ) good for you.
First I want to make sure your expectations for Awakening are realistic, based on reality. Seeing thru illusion does NOT fix anything. There is no loud BOOM or a choir of angels telling the world Vladi saw thru the illusion ; ) the only thing you will be completely clear on is, there is NO controller, NO Vladi. Just a story. That might seem scary from your side but I can assure you, not only is it NOT scary, it is freeing ! So let go of your resistance and/or fear. Just allow it to unfold and it will, ok ?
You feel you get "stuck in" this. WHAT feels it is stuck ? Look very closely. Describe what is going on right NOW. Not what you "think" is going on but what you see with eyes and the senses.
Some thoughts may appear as "memories" . Thoughts come and go. Some are attached to some are ignored. They are NOT real even if they FEEL real. We are only interested in NOW. The NOW is the only REAl moment there is.
Ok, I'll give you an exercise. Close your eyes, be still. Take your finger and point it to ,"I". Open your eyes and Tell me where the finger is pointing.
You are doing great. All is well : ) love Rita
knew you were made of sterner stuff ; ) good for you.
First I want to make sure your expectations for Awakening are realistic, based on reality. Seeing thru illusion does NOT fix anything. There is no loud BOOM or a choir of angels telling the world Vladi saw thru the illusion ; ) the only thing you will be completely clear on is, there is NO controller, NO Vladi. Just a story. That might seem scary from your side but I can assure you, not only is it NOT scary, it is freeing ! So let go of your resistance and/or fear. Just allow it to unfold and it will, ok ?
You feel you get "stuck in" this. WHAT feels it is stuck ? Look very closely. Describe what is going on right NOW. Not what you "think" is going on but what you see with eyes and the senses.
Some thoughts may appear as "memories" . Thoughts come and go. Some are attached to some are ignored. They are NOT real even if they FEEL real. We are only interested in NOW. The NOW is the only REAl moment there is.
Ok, I'll give you an exercise. Close your eyes, be still. Take your finger and point it to ,"I". Open your eyes and Tell me where the finger is pointing.
You are doing great. All is well : ) love Rita
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Yeah, I was gone for a snack ;)
Im mean it, i wont quit this. Ive been trying on and off for a year now and Im tired of not seeing it. So prepare ur patience dear Rita <3
And to not belive in the story would also lift some weight of the shoulders. Im sure.
Then i think, "Who is seeing this. Is there a me experiencing this." But nothing happens, no good answer, no clear seeing. Just the mind saying, I am. And that feeling, the sense of self is there to confirm it. To confirm that Im seeing this. It really feels like the self is looking for no self. Feeling of frustration comes up.
Ah.. what am I doing wrong here???????????
Im mean it, i wont quit this. Ive been trying on and off for a year now and Im tired of not seeing it. So prepare ur patience dear Rita <3
Im not scared, I was a year ago when i first heard about this but thats al gone now. I just want the damn thing to be over with. I want to see and move on from there. And im not expecting a boom or angels singing, but that would be nice if it did happen :) What im expecting is some kind of a click, or a shift. A certain knowing that this is it. AAAAAaahhhh. I tell u it would be so freeing for me, becuse this is looking is on my mind several hours per day.First I want to make sure your expectations for Awakening are realistic, based on reality. Seeing thru illusion does NOT fix anything. There is no loud BOOM or a choir of angels telling the world Vladi saw thru the illusion ; ) the only thing you will be completely clear on is, there is NO controller, NO Vladi. Just a story. That might seem scary from your side but I can assure you, not only is it NOT scary, it is freeing ! So let go of your resistance and/or fear. Just allow it to unfold and it will, ok ?
And to not belive in the story would also lift some weight of the shoulders. Im sure.
Well, it feels like "im" stuck, I dont get it. Mind just goes, now what. I see nothing. And a feeling in body like nothings happening.You feel you get "stuck in" this. WHAT feels it is stuck ? Look very closely. Describe what is going on right NOW. Not what you "think" is going on but what you see with eyes and the senses.
Then i think, "Who is seeing this. Is there a me experiencing this." But nothing happens, no good answer, no clear seeing. Just the mind saying, I am. And that feeling, the sense of self is there to confirm it. To confirm that Im seeing this. It really feels like the self is looking for no self. Feeling of frustration comes up.
Points to the upper chest area, But I cant really say, when I try it again its behind the eyes.Ok, I'll give you an exercise. Close your eyes, be still. Take your finger and point it to ,"I". Open your eyes and Tell me where the finger is pointing.
Ah.. what am I doing wrong here???????????
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