Looking for some help please

[Bananafish]

Thanks! :)

If you were to tell that something
is doing the typing of the reply,
what would it be?

Without saying
there is no one doing it, how would you
express the reality about typing?

Warm regards,

Bananafish

[Lindylou]

Hi

If you were to tell that something
is doing the typing of the reply,
what would it be?

The body is doing the physical typing. What is controlling or instructing it? Consciousness?

Without saying
there is no one doing it, how would you
express the reality about typing?

Brain processes question/ instruction. Thoughts come, formulating reply. Brain as a tool instructs hand and fingers to move to required letters to create words and sentences

[Bananafish]

Hi. :)

What is doing the typing?


And please tell me how "brain" itself is perceived now.

[Lindylou]

Hi :)

What is doing the typing?

Fingers...impulses instructed by thought

And please tell me how "brain" itself is perceived now

It's part of the human body - it encodes data, has thoughts, sends impulses to cause the body to move..

[Bananafish]

Hi!

What moves the fingers?

Also, how do you perceive the brain itself?
Do you see, smell, hear it sending impulses?

[Lindylou]

Hi

What moves the fingers?

It kind of happens automatically. There is thought or intention to do something which then results in typing .... I could look up in a book how synapses fire etc creating movement, but it just happens.

Also, how do you perceive the brain itself?
Do you see, smell, hear it sending impulses?

It's seamless and automatic, no direct experience of impulses being sent, just the direct experience of viewing the results ie the typing

[Bananafish]

Hi. :)

What moves the fingers? Could you answer what exactly moves them?

Also, do you see, smell, hear it sending impulses? Could you answer in yes or no?

[Lindylou]

Hi ;)

What moves the fingers? Could you answer what exactly moves them?

Beyond looking up the biological explanation - I don't know. I'm trying to answer by looking at direct experience, but I can't find an answer there.

Also, do you see, smell, hear it sending impulses? Could you answer in yes or no?

No. Definitely not!

[Bananafish]

Hi again!

Good that you can't find an answer. :) "Not knowing is the most intimate."


Now, you have quite often used the term "direct experience." What is it?

Also, could you tell what "brain sending impulses" is?

[Lindylou]

Hi :)

Now, you have quite often used the term "direct experience." What is it?

That's an expression I first heard here. Hearing, seeing, sensation, tasting, smelling, thought. That which can be witnessed I suppose.

Also, could you tell what "brain sending impulses" is?

Ok this is googled...."Muscles move on commands from the brain. Single nerve cells in the spinal cord, called motor neurons, are the only way the brain connects to muscles. When a motor neuron inside the spinal cord fires, an impulse goes out from it to the muscles on a long, very thin extension of that single cell called an axon." So this is learned information, a scientific explanation of how brain impulses create movement. So when i used that expression, this is what i meant. I guess its just scientific theory

[Bananafish]

Hi. :)

If you were to rename "direct experience," what would it be?

Also, without relying on a scientific theory, please tell me what is moving
the fingers. This time, please say you don't know. Observe the typing itself, repeatedly if needed,
and describe it as you have observed.

[Lindylou]

Hi :)

If you were to rename "direct experience," what would it be?

It's what we know for sure is happening. It's real, it's experienced. That which we are aware of?

Also, without relying on a scientific theory, please tell me what is moving the fingers. This time, please say you don't know. Observe the typing itself, repeatedly if needed, and describe it as you have observed.

I don't know. It happens automatically. I think ive said this before, i seem to be repeating myself :)

Btw thank you for your time with this :)

[Bananafish]

Thanks. :) Yes, thank you for your patience, too.

It's what we know for sure is happening. It's real, it's experienced. That which we are aware of?

Who is the one that knows for sure, or is aware?

I don't know. It happens automatically. I think ive said this before, i seem to be repeating myself :)

Yes, and yet you still haven't answered "what" moves the fingers; and this time I requested that you
don't say "I don't know." Please observe again and again, until an answer comes up. be careful not to
intellectualize ... just observe and report what you saw.

[Lindylou]

Sorry you'd typed This time, please say you don't know
I'm a bit literal!
Will report back later :)

[Lindylou]

Hi :)

Who is the one that knows for sure, or is aware?

The watcher or witnesser. But it's not an entity, it's not located inside the body, it doesn't have a location that I can pinpoint

You still haven't answered "what" moves the fingers; and this time I requested that you
don't say "I don't know." Please observe again and again, until an answer comes up. be careful not to
intellectualize ... just observe and report what you saw

.

It seems like the "doer" ie what moves the fingers is the same as that which is observing the fingers typing.