Help a shift to seeing correctly

[yoyo]

. 1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience.
Describe it fully as you see it no

illusion is a thought appearing as the experiencer of seeingcolor ,hearingsound,feelingsensation,tasting,smelling and thinkingthoughts.thoughts of "i"me"self"appear as labels layered over AE and content of thought is taken as AE.it starts with thought of me and not me appearing as initial separation.hmmmm.done now "describing" can continue.........fully never gets full.haha

[yoyo]

. 1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience.
Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) a) How does it feel to see this?
b) What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
b) What makes things happen? How does it work?
c) What are you responsible for?
d) Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

3...no feeling that is a thoughtlabel for sensation.just seeing no feeler of sensation still labelling sensation most of the time and it appears for hmmmm.....without a "me"
labeling ,sensation right now appears to leave qickly.not much different actually,how could there be.a story labelled"past few days" only thought story.
4.Looking just happened
5.a...
All thought stories there is no decider,intender,chooser,controller,and no will to be free.only thoughtstory appearing
B...things dont happen only AE of thoughtsensationtastesoundcolorsmell which is known as itself. Crazy trip-:))
C...no me and responsible is thoughtcontent
D...examples r thought appearing labelled as memory have no actual meaning
6 was confused if was to make believe and answer as from an imanginary person hmmmm.... it appears "no"is the thought
How to proceed love answering questions
So much gratitude and love
Allen-:)))

4.Looking just happened.waiting for thought to appear....

[yoyo]

.1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience.
Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) a) How does it feel to see this?
b) What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
b) What makes things happen? How does it work?
c) What are you responsible for?
d) Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

haha "unsure"another "thought cocept "and there is no one to be "unsure"

[forgetmenot]

Hi Allen,

I had a huge smile on my face as I read your responses. I just think you are beautiful! I love your that you have responded from AE.

With question 3, I need the answers to reflect on what your experience is now, compared to before this exploration started - so could you do that for me please.

With question 5, I need you to provide examples from your 'day to day life' - so to speak, on how you are seeing decision, intent, responsibility, intention and free will playing out.

These questions are read by other guides as a means to ensure that I have guided you clearly into seeing that there is no separate individual, and that you are clear and have seen that there is no separate individual.

So can I get you to do the questions again...answering from what 'knowledge' has been gained/seen through this inquiry and could you supply more information for the questions 3, 4 and 5 please.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience.
Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this?
What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
b) What makes things happen? How does it work?
c) What are you responsible for?
d) Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?


With love and gratitude
Kay
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[yoyo]

. 1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience.
Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this?
What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
b) What makes things happen? How does it work?
c) What are you responsible for?
d) Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

#3.. its more obvious about story appearing.before could only see some story appear with idea to get rid of or change the story" here" or in "others" .so much more "accepting" apparently.feeling relaxed ,hardly any contraction,not worrying about remembering and things to do.seems like it will all get done just fine without all the thoughts.before "i" was always solving imagined problems and senarios in a future,figuring out how to enhance and prop up a self image and worried about how others would see me.not so much now actually no point.last few days hmmmmm.....was not wanting to learn this like book knowledge.then seeing that that was thought appearing now and memory was thought appearing now and thought cant do anything accept appear as AE .wow and now only colorimage asAE.thought content appearing labelled body.instead of body having and storing experiences and a "me"
#4 sobered up and surrendered to universe to be relieved of self saying yes to whatever and this site appeared when looking for help awakening.
#5..decision is thought appearing to hijack through imagined "self" what already apparently happened. Just looking over and over cant verify a decider.keep seeing it as a thoughtstory appearing after the "fact" or actually an artifact. Intention is a thought appearing as influencer of other thoughts to create outcome of reality. Such crap.as thought is AE now and really cant do anything.im responsible for NOTHING AT ALL. not even makeing anysense of that question.responsibility is a thoughtstory to explain apparent "bhavior "of an appaent "self"it appears to have "meaning" concering apparent" qualities" in a "self" all a thoghtstory in AE.

[yoyo]

.1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience.
Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this?
What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
b) What makes things happen? How does it work?
c) What are you responsible for?
d) Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

oops "free will"another story like story of "choice". that thought has a power to do actions like choose,speak,right ,wrong ,moral decisions.all thoughstory to explain what is already happening."control" is thought claiming thought has a power to inluence outcomes by a "self" .just a thought appearing

[yoyo]

. 1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience.
Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this?
What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
b) What makes things happen? How does it work?
c) What are you responsible for?
d) Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

apparently dont read directions very well #1..no separate entity and never has been only a thought labeled memory.so if no "i"me""self" now then never was only a thoughtstory appearing
#2 separate "self" is sense ofexperiencer of phenomena with a thought story with layering of labels and meaning on top. Also predictable behavior experienced as a "self"with a informing "others" of historical narative to solidify self image.also an imagined experiencer of apparent emotions in a body and doer of all.
#6there is an assumption that this is a beginning.

[yoyo]

.1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience.
Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this?
What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
b) What makes things happen? How does it work?
c) What are you responsible for?
d) Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

#5 notice things hapenning and thought appears as deciding and intending.free will has a lot less expression.choice and control not much arising thought around thoughtconcept.things seem to happen or not and story appears after to claim experiencer of "things happening".dont understand question "what i'm responsible for"please clarify.

[forgetmenot]

Hi Allen,

I am going to have to copy and paste your answers into a coherent order so that the others guides will be able to marry up the questions with your responses. I will do that after I have clarified your questions about responsibility.

"dont understand question "what i'm responsible for"please clarify.

Basically the question is referring to control, intent, free will, choices and decisions.
Are you responsible for anything that happens? Are you responsible for any seeming choices made and the consequences or benefits etc? Are you responsible for how life is happening and so on?

Love, Kay
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[yoyo]

. 1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience.
Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this?
What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
b) What makes things happen? How does it work?
c) What are you responsible for?
d) Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

apologies for disjointed reply.misread instructions three times is the story.
"Three weeks ago" i was responsible for alot of things including my actions.now responsibility is just a thoughtconcept and no one to take ownership of "apparent" actions refering to resposible person.
Thnx Kay -:)
Ps. Reporting more answer to#3.Also notice people much friendlier than a few weeks ago and others saying certain phrasings like "they r just human" or"i keep telling myself to...." and many many others appear to give a momentary pause as a thought "out of sinc" appears.

[forgetmenot]

Hi Allen,

Thank you for answering those questions for me again. As I wrote in my last post, I am going to copy and paste your answers into a coherent format to the best of my ability :) Yes, I had noticed that reading instructions was not one of your strong suits (smiling!!) I will ask other guides to come and have a look see at your responses, and there may or may not be further questions. Maybe there will be because they might not make sense of what you have written because it is a little disjointed because of using an ipad and you finding it difficult to use. I got used of reading disjointed responses....although at times even I found them difficult to decipher! (smiling)

I will get back to you to let you know if there are any further questions from other guides. This may take a day or so.

. 1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

no separate entity and never has been, only a thought labeled memory. so if no "i" me" "self" now, then never was. only a thought story appearing.

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience.
Describe it fully as you see it now.

separate "self" is sense of experiencer of phenomena, with a thought story, and with the layering of labels and meaning on top. Also predictable behavior experienced as a "self", with a informing "others" of historical narative, to solidify self image. also an imagined experiencer of apparent emotions in a body and doer of all.

3) How does it feel to see this?
What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.

.. its more obvious about story appearing. before could only see some story appear with idea to get rid of, or change the story "here", or in "others". so much more "accepting" apparently. feeling relaxed, hardly any contraction, not worrying about remembering and things to do. seems like it will all get done just fine without all the thoughts. before "i" was always solving imagined problems and senarios in a future; figuring out how to enhance and prop up a self image, and worried about how others would see me. not so much now - actually no point.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

sobered up and surrendered to universe to be relieved of self saying yes to whatever and this site appeared when looking for help awakening.

5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
b) What makes things happen? How does it work?
c) What are you responsible for?
d) Give examples from experience.

..decision is thought appearing to hijack through imagined "self" what already apparently happened. Just looking over and over cant verify a decider. keep seeing it as a thought story appearing after the "fact" or actually an artifact.

Intention is a thought appearing as influencer of other thoughts to create outcome of reality. Such crap. as thought is AE now and really cant do anything. im responsible for NOTHING AT ALL. not even makeing any sense of that question.

responsibility is a thought story to explain apparent "behavior "of an apparent "self". it appears to have "meaning" concerning apparent" qualities" in a "self" - all a thought story in AE.

"free will" another story like the story of "choice". that thought has a power to do actions like choose, speak,right ,wrong ,moral decisions. This is all thought story to explain what is already happening.

"control" is thought claiming thought has a power to influence outcomes by a "self". just a thought appearing

notice things hapenning, and thought appears as deciding and intending. free will has a lot less expression. choice and control - not much arising thought around thought concept. things seem to happen or not, and story appears after to claim experiencer of "things happening".

"Three weeks ago" i was responsible for alot of things, including my actions. now responsibility is just a thought concept, and no one to take ownership of "apparent" actions refering to resposible person.

6) Anything to add?

there is an assumption that this is a beginning.

[forgetmenot]

Hello Allen,

There are no further questions for you. Congratulations on 'passing' through the illusory gate! (smiling). I sent you a PM via the forum informing you of the next steps.

It was an absolute pleasure guiding you and once again, I thank you for being so willing to LOOK and to being so open and honest in your responses.

Much love,
Kay
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