My mind belives it`s aware?

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:51 pm

LOOK can you find 'your mind'
No, it finds me?
Can you find one?
Yes colectivly?:/
What does it consist of?
Brain activity?
How can your mind exist, when you do not exist?
Mind receives instruction, I does`nt exist but body/brain does as matter forming together?:/
I am NOT interested in what the Mind 'thinks'.
Because you know the full story;)
Do you wonder why?
Hmmmmmm,mmmm, Yes I think, no because it`s antimatter;) Am I in trouble?:/)
Arnie said this to? "I`ll be back;)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:00 pm

Found your marking, "de" and "thought" V helpful, or is this laziness, on my behalf, obviously?;)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:57 pm

Hi Micheal
Could very well be laziness or and obstacle of some kind. Do you believe that You can not see illusion, that it is too diff icult, too advanced for you to see, ......YOU tell me! What are your belief on you seeing through the illusion of I?

The post from 5.51 I will consider as non-existent.....just thought stuff

Come on.....you know what to do

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:22 pm

I am not interested in what the Mind 'thinks' = I am not interested in reading guessings, thoughts, words followed by a ? from your hand. All I want to see is what you come to KNOW by direct experience. If it is liitle tiny bits - I will be joyfull, if it is big insights I will be joyful, if it is thoughts and mind stuff, I will be joyful, but not reading.....

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:32 pm

Do you believe that You can not see illusion,
Yes, being honest:( Falseness of others including me, the one who "can", then "can not", be of a certainty state, sounds worrying?:)
KNOW by direct experience.
Direct experience: hmm, this is where I guesses where Michael gets out of sync? Unsure what data one is to collect?
Come on.....you know what to do
Do-not:( What!! Dumb just got dumber, not on purpose:/
If it is liitle tiny bits - I will be joyfull, if it is big insights I will be joyful, if it is thoughts and mind stuff, I will be joyful
DE ~ What is noticed in the present moment without distraction? OR Recalling your experience of what happens when it happens?
but not reading.....
this shit?;/(
Failing is good what ever the reason? Can not stop Q`s what`s up with ?
Much love, M;)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:22 am

Hi Michael
No worries. Nothing wrong.
We are constantly looking for what is true, if that is a belief of not being able to see through illusion, then that is what is and what we are looking for.

DE = notice senses, not thought. The thought/belief 'I am not able to look through illusion of I, somethihng must be wrong' is standing in the way of seeing through. It is an obstacle, not a problem.
DE = What is noticed in the present moment without distraction. Yes. See you knew what to do. Just thought that you didn't.

You can not stop q. Of cause. It is not YOU asking them. Not until you see what questions are confusing/confused thoughts.

Really there are no problem, it is as it is. Only thoughtbased sentences are no good in this context.

Have you seen there is no 'I'?
Have you felt being as 'true nature'?
Have you sensed painting happens with no I in control?

If you agree you have. What is doing the looking?
Now I do not want to read thoughts or questions. Come up with what you experience to know about the topic, when you are not thinking, not assuming, believing, questioning. Look into senses.

You can go back in this thread and read my instruction of how to do direct experience and what happened when you did.

Enjoy. Looking forward to your answer
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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:40 am

We are constantly looking for what is true,
Feelings of joy and how lucky I am are firmly set in my head, which is grand:)
What appears to happen is a sense of guilt arises and smothers the joy:(
Not thoughts, true feelings which seem to go on and on, stuck:(
Then attention is focused on the next happening which dilutes the underling apparent problem/obstacle and thoughts fade.
Today dropped off my daughter at school because the weather was pretty bad, seeing a school kid walking to school and it starts raining, I feel sorry for him? What can I do to help? Nothing! Sounds pathetic but this is what happens. It`s a genuine feeling, which leads to thinking:(
How this silly little tiny insignificant thing has an affect:( Compassion or over active caring? Feeling sorry for everyone.Certainly not for myself:/
These are feelings not thoughts? Feelings cause thoughts to arise.
So seeing anything, hearing anything my body seems to feel the apparent problem, or joy of the event. Then solving the insignificant problem appears to take over and drowned the sense of being.A lost in chaos springs to mind. The joy it`s your Birthday is a nice feeling:)
Will answer the rest in a bit.

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:36 pm

The thought/belief 'I am not able to look through illusion of I,
The non existent "I"= Things are happening to body not the I I believe to be me? Thought of I creates a personal illusionary separate entity,(self) Acceptance is gradually seeping in. Feeling, sensing it.
Thoughts have numbed my senses:/
If forgetting is apparent, then thinking wrongly, or confusingly has an adverse effect on body:(
Have you seen there is no 'I'?
Yes clearly, but the illusionary I`s thought now believes it`s real and has a clearer view than true self. Errm hang on a mo that`s impossible:/ See without thinking upon this, the illusionary I would have not realised. So now true self can guide true self and remove false invading thinking to the rubbish bin marked unreal;) Making sense of senses and why they are`nt operating correctly required thinking though. also guiding;)
Have you felt being as 'true nature'?
Yes 100% crystal, many times, shot lived though.
Have you sensed painting happens with no I in control?
Yes, body operates in the zone with full 100% being in the moment experiencing, and it`s amazing;) Not often and not long enough, yet fully experienced, NO doubt about that;~))
What is doing the looking?
Will sense this one for a short being;)
Will be back asap;) Birthday girl;~))

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:01 pm

Hi Michael
What a nice little piece of noticing!
Feelings of joy and how lucky I am are firmly set in my head, which is grand:)
What appears to happen is a sense of guilt arises and smothers the joy:(
Fine observation! Do you also notice that you do not have to DO anything about what happens. Sense of quilt arises and disappear again. If you notice them without the feeling that YOU made them happen.
Not thoughts, true feelings which seem to go on and on, stuck:(
Notice what happens when you notice feelings without making them 'yours'.
Then attention is focused on the next happening which dilutes the underling apparent problem/obstacle and thoughts fade.
Exactly, feelings, thoughts fade away and others take over in a constant - or almost constant - rhythm - like waves in the ocean.
Today dropped off my daughter at school because the weather was pretty bad, seeing a school kid walking to school and it starts raining, I feel sorry for him? What can I do to help? Nothing!
True. Nothing YOU can do. You are not the doer, nor the thinker. Help may be offered, maybe not. You are not the doer. Help happens or it doesn't.
Sounds pathetic but this is what happens. It`s a genuine feeling, which leads to thinking:(
The thought of 'guilt' makes it feel pathetic. It isn't. It simply is. That can be hard for 'mind' to accept.
How this silly little tiny insignificant thing has an affect:( Compassion or over active caring? Feeling sorry for everyone.Certainly not for myself:/
Great! What is the difference between compassion and over-active caring? (from direct experiencing)
These are feelings not thoughts?
Yes, they are. Are you the feeler of feelings? Direct experience, please
So seeing anything, hearing anything my body seems to feel the apparent problem, or joy of the event. Then solving the insignificant problem appears to take over and drowned the sense of being.
Rephrasing: So anything seen, anything heard seems to arise feelings in the body. Then solving the pronlem happens, or not.

The sense of being apparently 'drowning' when the thought of 'I' am the doer, thinker, feeler are identified with.

Can you sense the difference in this answer and the answers based on thoughts?

A joy to work with this

Greetings Vivi

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:30 pm

Hi Michael

Another nice reply :)
The non existent "I"= Things are happening to body not the I I believe to be me?
Things are happening. Not 'to' anyone/-thing/-body.
Thought of I creates a personal illusionary separate entity,(self) Acceptance is gradually seeping in. Feeling, sensing it.
Yes and nice :)
Thoughts have numbed my senses
Seems like it
If forgetting is apparent, then thinking wrongly, or confusingly has an adverse effect on body:(
Seems like it.
Yes clearly, but the illusionary I`s thought now believes it`s real and has a clearer view than true self. Errm hang on a mo that`s impossible:/ See without thinking upon this, the illusionary I would have not realised. So now true self can guide true self and remove false invading thinking to the rubbish bin marked unreal;) Making sense of senses and why they are`nt operating correctly required thinking though. also guiding;)
Haha! Being clever appeared! Yes thoughts arise and seems to correct confusion. Confusion comes from identifying with thought - when there is no or only little identification with thoughts it becomes easy to know which thoughts to listen too and which thoughts to ignore/let be.

greetings Vivi

Looking forward to read your next observations :)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:32 pm

When YOU do not exist, do YOU have a body?

Please take your time and answer from direct experience

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:50 pm

What is the difference between compassion and over-active caring?
Compassion is feeling, over-active caring is thought about wanting to do something.
Are you the feeler of feelings?
Yes, body senses receive feelings, directly from experience.
So anything seen, anything heard seems to arise feelings in the body. Then solving the problem happens, or not.
Yes perfect sense? No attachment, no need to do anything, except accept what is happening;) Attempt to fix it if a way is seen, if not let it go;)
The sense of being apparently 'drowning' when the thought of 'I' am the doer, thinker, feeler are identified with.
Again in plain sight, unidentify with "it`s my responsibility"
it is`nt anyones;)
Thought is clever with mind making up stories of make believe:(+:)
Pure joy being led by you;)
Still looking for seer?Unless it is me?:)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:11 pm

Compassion is feeling, over-active caring is thought about wanting to do something
Bingo! thought about wanting to DO something....and you are not the doer:)
Are you the feeler of feelings - yes body senses recieve feelings, directly from experience.


Hmm, so you do not exist but are the body??
Yes perfect sense?
What does the ? mean?
No attachment, no need to do anything, except accept what is happening
Even do not have to accept what is happening....it happens anyway, if it happens.
Attempt to fix it if a way is seen, if not let it go;
Who is there to attempt and to let go? Attemptions happens, let go happens. No I to MAKE it happen/go.
Again in plain sight, unidentify with "it`s my responsibility"
itttempt is`nt anyones;)
Exactly!
Thought is clever with mind making up stories of make believe:(+:)
Sure appears so :)

Keep looking for seer!
Unless it is me?
Ahaha! I am not answering this one for you! You already know!

It seems to be narrowing in I am glad to say :)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:10 am

What does the ? mean?
Don`t know, could have been me other-old self being a killjoy, but that`s only assumption;)? should not be there;))
Hmm, so you do not exist but are the body??
Yes the body form in matter which exists in the here and now presently;)
You mean the father of existence itself? Oh that`s simply just what is;)
Everything is inside nothing and nothing is inside everything, including me who is you;)Natural awareness one would imply;)
Keep looking for seer!
Awareness being concious of true self:
Naturally feeling, sensing onenesses s presence here right now!!;~))
Must go now and honourably enjoy the only moment there is;)
Life is a V cool dude, just like U Vivi;) (or dudet)
Love Michael;~))

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:28 am

Yuuuuu!

Come back later and elaborate, please :)


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