What is really true?

[Inspirit12]

Hi Luchana,

Thank you. Apologies, I saw this message just now and your suggested slots have already passed. We could try possibly on Monday (I have quite a lot work then though) or possibly some other day that week.

Thank you for your kind offering!

Much love,
tommi

[Luchana]

Hi Tommy,
all right - how Tuesday evening works for you?

7 or 7:30 pm?

Love,
Luchana

[Inspirit12]

HI Luchana,

Great. 19.30 CET will be perfect. Looking forward to it.

PS. Today I felt quite clearly (for a short time) that there was no "me" in the body. It felt quite scary to see myself empty and just as life or whatever. A huge freedom was felt. It seems that something is loosing its grip but won't give up easily. This freedom is just so AMAZING. I felt very light and like a child again :) This freedom is exactly the same I have had glimpses of. The experience is emptiness but at the same time full of life and very intimate.

With love,
tommy

[Luchana]

Hi dear Tommi,
Yes, like children.
This is so beautiful to taste the freedom.

Let's look here:

It felt quite scary to see myself empty and just as life or whatever.

Meet this part which is scary, feel it and ask it what it wants the most?
And stay with it, say that you want the same, and that this part has right to want exactly this which it wants.
Re-ensure it that you want the same.
How does it feel?

Love,
Luchana

[Inspirit12]

Hi Luchana,

Thank you. This is a great exercise. This feels really good and warm. There was some extra heart bumping when I did this exercise. I know there is only a fear reaction and no one-behind it. We also want the same thing, freedom/liberation, and now I can let the fear just be there if it wants to.

There is definitely a bit more of that realxing in emptiness today compared to earlier weeks.

With love,
tommy

[Inspirit12]

Hi Luchana,

Hope you´re well. And thank you for organizing a call with Lubo! After the call next day, something switched while I was in the bathroom. The mind got very quiet and I kind of saw myself as the awareness in the bathroom. When I looked at my legs, the experience was like the legs are "inside me". The mind has stayed very quiet even today and I feel a silence, that is different. The body feels quite light and it feels like I am more energized and doing random stuff not in line with my normal routines. I am somehow also more efficient (in flow) when the mind is not in the way commenting...

I don´t know what it is but I feel more boundless or "bigger" than before :)

Much love,
tommy

[Luchana]

Hi dear Tommi,

I can feel what you are sharing.
Yes, no need to identify with any experience, they are here for us to enjoy them.
Including the experience called body.

I want to invite you to investigate experiences,
Notice that experiences are empty from substance.
There are only 5 senses and noting more.
for example:
Take an apple - and notice that there is an idea that there is apple which owns this exact shape and colour and smell?
But we are looking that there is no such object, only (empty from substance) experience called apple.
Take a bite - notice the taste, the juiciness...?
And notice is there an experience of "real" apple or there experience of a taste called apple and there is no object apple?

Same with the body?
Same with thoughts?

Much love,
Luchana

[Inspirit12]

Hi Luchana,

Thank you. I am slowly starting to realize this. There is only sense perception (+understanding) but no objects. It is like looking at the visual field without language, without words, without thoughts, without labels. Then it indeed becomes nondual if there is only experiencing without any objects....

With love,
tommy

[Luchana]

Hi Tommi,

Then it indeed becomes nondual if there is only experiencing without any objects....

Notice - there are objects, but what about the subject?

Is there a subject?

Love,
Luchana

[Inspirit12]

Hi Luchana,

Thank you for this poitning. I experience more & more that the body is emptying out but there is till an experience of a subject, a "me" there. There is still seeking energy left.

But I think like this: It´s all perfection, freedom WITH selfing. Just relaxing and letting the selfing happen and letting it be.

With love,
Tommy

[Luchana]

Hi dear Tommy,
No selfing=no body

Here is an exercise.

look at my picture-avatar here
Is what you see me or is it a picture right now?
Touch it - literally. Notice that there is sensation - right?
is this sensation me/you?

Now in the same way notice your face (no need to touch it)- is this you?
Feel the sensation called me, my face, my head?
Notice is this someone or this is a sensation "from the screen"?

What is coming ?
Is there real body, face?
Is there selfing?

Much love,
Luchana

[Inspirit12]

Hi Luchana,

Thank you for this exercise. It is a hard one. There are apparently only a sensation when touching your photo on the computer screen and it is not you. I can´t feel "my face" or body for that matter either. It is just sensations and colours all intertwined.

It starts to be seen that there is only a "screen" for the visual field together with sounds, sensations, smells, tastes and thoughts. A virtual reality (like a hologram) without anyone in it... In that case everything is just empty of subject/object. Is this correct?

Then one question arrises. If I am traveling somewhere with an airplane, am I not really travelling (moving) anywhere? It´s just a film playing out on a screen? And history then? There is no history? Nothing ever happened for real?

Much love,
Tommy

[Luchana]

Hi dear Tommi,

It starts to be seen that there is only a "screen" for the visual field together with sounds, sensations, smells, tastes and thoughts. A virtual reality (like a hologram) without anyone in it... In that case everything is just empty of subject/object. Is this correct?

Mind cannot get it but I can feel what you are experiencing
Is there persona in any shape or form?

If I am traveling somewhere with an airplane, am I not really travelling (moving) anywhere? It´s just a film playing out on a screen? And history then? There is no history? Nothing ever happened for real?

Beautiful, no need to identify with any experience, even with the story.

Much love,
L.

[Inspirit12]

Hi Luchana,

Thank you. It starts to be seen that there is only what seems to be happening. Not a persona involved at all. This is starting to hit really hard now. One moment there is undescribable bliss and everything feels super light and soon after there comes kind of a panic attack by the mind. Last night there was short glimpse of total void/emtiness behind everything and then some kind of fear trigger came and didn´t allow to look/stay there, it is hard to describe.

I am sensing something is shifting in the body but don´t know what it is. A mix of lightness/pressure/disorientation. I don´t know what this is but it is not how I normally feel.

Has anything ever really happened? Or is this just a lightshow appearing.. This is the question that is coming up now.

With love,
tommy

[Luchana]

Hi dear Tommy,
Hug this part which is afraid.
Stay with it.
Ask this part: What you are afrade from? and do the list, send me everything which this part is afraide from.

I am sensing something is shifting in the body but don´t know what it is. A mix of lightness/pressure/disorientation. I don´t know what this is but it is not how I normally feel.

Beautiful. Yes, this is the sense of the breakdown of identification.
Notice that behind all contractions there is freedom. Stay with that freedom , enjoy it.

Where exactly are you located? Is there Tommy and freedom?
Or there is freedom only.


Much love,
Luchana