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Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:14 pm
by Anastacia42
Hi Kara
I am finding I can access the space, peace whatever the word is when I have time to sit and look inward. It’s just there readily available. I am really enjoying that. I’m going to keep going with butt chair.
This is excellent news!
Yes, keep practicing ButtChair.
The "zen, calm, peace" - could it also be described as expansive, relaxed. spacious? "
That's the "truth feeling" or "body yes" I've posted about. Follow that.
Loving,
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:38 pm
by KB1
Hi Stacy
The "zen, calm, peace" - could it also be described as expansive, relaxed. spacious? "
Yes expansive, relaxed and spacious are the correct words for it.
I will go back and review Body Yes.
Love
Kara
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:36 pm
by Anastacia42
Good.
Loving,
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:21 pm
by KB1
Good evening Stacy
Nothing new to report. I am still reading and doing buttchair
Thank you
Kara
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:42 am
by Anastacia42
Good. That spacious feeling was a positive sign. Is that continuing?
Loving,
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:05 pm
by KB1
Yesterday was a little frustrating but today so far has been amazing. Something is shifting. I am feeling more and more of the space today. I’m excited to spend some time this evening continuing the reading and buttchair. It’s like I’ve tasted it and now I want more.
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:29 pm
by Anastacia42
I know that feeling of wanting me, but be aware that it's an expectation & can get in the way. It has you looking for something in the "future, " instead of being here now.
Stay with now. We do that by staying with Direct Experience of the 5 senses.
Loving,
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:42 pm
by KB1
Thank you Stacy
Understood.
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:06 pm
by KB1
Hi again Stacy
I’m reading one of the journeys and on of the questions is “who/what is experiencing the world?”
I’ve been looking and looking and I am stuck.
As I’ve said I can’t find a self, I or me when I look, it’s just space. But that is when I actively ask and look. However the above question has stumped me. When I sit and watch the world move around me, and ask who/ what is experiencing it. I seem to think it’s me that is watching/ experiencing.
Confused.
Thank you
Kara
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:53 pm
by Anastacia42
Confusion is because there is no one and yet seeing is happening.
Couldn't it just be seeing? With no one doing it? That's what we find.
Life life-ing we call it.
Relax into that. See if that seems truer? Check your gut feeling.
Loving,
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:30 pm
by KB1
Something has shifted.
Listening just happens, seeing just happens
The seeing can happen before the thought claims it as “my seeing”. I rolled my eyes around the room and everything appeared or is seen without an owner.
I’m going to keep reading and reviewing your questions.
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:49 pm
by Anastacia42
There you go!
Something has shifted.
Listening just happens, seeing just happens
That's it. You are seeing.
Can you find any separate "self" doing this seeing?
The seeing can happen before the thought claims it as “my seeing”. I rolled my eyes around the room and everything appeared or is seen without an owner.
Yes! Always seeing happens before thought claims it.
What about any "separate self?" Can you find any such thing?
Loving,
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:24 am
by Anastacia42
You might also watch this new video on expectations. It's an hour.
https://youtu.be/93fpiOnKM4M
(In addition to the previous questions.)
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:46 pm
by KB1
Hi Stacy
I will watch the YouTube video over the course of this evening and tomorrow evening.
Can you find any separate "self" doing this seeing?
What about any "separate self?" Can you find any such thing?
As before when I look for a self there is nothing. However when I am going about my day to day I have to actively stop, look inward take a moment and then BOOM the seeing is happening. “I” can then see there is no “I” seeing, seeing is just happening. However, it is not automatic, I have to tune into it. And maybe that’s how it is? Maybe the video will manage my expectations.
All that being said, there is more and more of the space. I’m doing a work project and usually I would be so so anxious but the space is there and if I go into thought I catch it, I look for the I/ the thinker and then space again. Work is still getting done, in fact it’s more enjoyable even though previously thought would have told me this is awful etc etc.
I will also say I am fearful to maybe accept I’m at the gate or have seen or leave you as I need to keep looking to solidify it. But maybe that’s thought? Coming back here daily is helping me see.
Thank you again for your time and patience. It is very much appreciated.
Kara
Re: Seeking, constantly seeking
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:30 pm
by Anastacia42
HI Kara,
I think you nailed it when you said you are reluctant to leave the support of the forum. I can't know your experience, but what you report sounds like seeing and having crossed the gate.
Did I share these?
Seeing won't be 24/7. There's likely to.be a "honeymoon period," and then what we call, "got it, lost it," as untrue beliefs come up to be questioned.
Watch this, please:
https://youtu.be/vJQcD588g2w
and
https://youtu.be/PUDzrCLlrj4
We have teleconference meetings that you can attend for as long as you like. And you can always write to me. I'm happy to answer anything that comes up even when we are "finished." This is just the beginning.
We do have a few traditional "final" questions. Let me know when you are ready to attempt those.
Loving
~ Stacy