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Hi Pawan,

Interpretation is also happening on its own, as you say. With interpretation going on also, is there a person in charge of life, living a life? Can you find anything or anyone that is apart from this experience and having the experience of this life? I want you to answer with 100% honesty and only when the answer feels right.

Does any doubt, irritation, fear arise when you look at this?

Describe what you see.

Thanks!

Divya

Namastay ji

is there a person in charge of life, living a life?

There is no Person in charge of life or living a life,its just there⁷

Can you find anything or anyone that is apart from this experience and having the experience of this life

I dont find anything or anyone that is apart from this experience
Of life.

Does any doubt, irritation, fear arise when you look at this?

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Doubts and fear do arises as, till now i always lived as pawan a Person not as a performing a Role on a Stage.

..i think i replied this post before may be something went wrong, its not showing here...so i replied again.
Regards
Pawan..

Hi Pawan,

Sorry for the delay. Was busy with spring related activities here:)

From the beginning of our conversation to now there have been some shifts. How would you describe them? How do you see the day today activities now as compared to before? What has changed? How would you describe this change? Were there any moments or times that you remember the shifts happened? Describe it, how it happens for you.

What are the fears about? Who is the fear trying to protect? Try this - what happens when you look at fear as it is happening and look to see if anyone is behind the fear? Just look the fear directly and see what is it protecting. What do you see?

Doubts are thoughts. Is there anything to doubts other than thoughts? Is there a person having the doubts? Like all thoughts they come and go. Look at the belief behind the doubts. These are our closest held beliefs, the beliefs we are most attached to. Question the beliefs. Specially question the beliefs held most close to the heart, the ones that seem obviously true. What do you notice?

Go for it, see what happens.

Divya

Namastay ji
Sorry for latexreply

From the beginning of our conversation to now there have been some shifts. How would you describe them? [/q
uote] before this u was thinking that there is a separate self was in surch of that but now i realized that there is no separate self.

How do you see the day today activities now as compared to before?

My day today activities are not like before as i am not living as pawan as i was doing before.,things are just happning .

What has changed? How would you describe this change?

now dont involve myself with each and everything as i did before.

Were there any moments or times that you remember the shifts happened? Describe it, how it happens for you.

I do see these shifts as i was habitual of that life but i can return back to that point that there is no separate self

Who is the fear trying to protect

Fear is just a thought..

what happens when you look at fear as it is happening and look to see if anyone is behind the fear? Just look the fear directly and see what is it protecting. What do you see?

No one is behind fear, can see fear only aythough.

Doubts are thoughts. Is there anything to doubts other than thoughts? Is

Its true that doubts are just a thought, there is nothing execpt thoughts.

Is there a person having the doubts

There is no Person, thoughts are just coming and going and this body is providing a Platform for thoughts and emotions.

Look at the belief behind the doubts. These are our closest held beliefs, the beliefs we are most attached to. Question the beliefs. Specially question the beliefs held most close to the heart, the ones that seem obviously true. What do you notice?

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We can think only what we gathered through our senses. So thoughts and belief are about what we gathered..
Thx
Pawan

Hi Pawan,

Thanks for your response.

Would you say there is something in the body that is living a life? How do you see it happening? Describe some examples from your life? How are decisions made about everyday activities?

What is suffering? What kind of thoughts, body sensations happen during suffering compared to when suffering is not happening? Why is there suffering? What or who is suffering?

Thanks,

Divya

Namastay ji.

With interpretation going on also, is there a person in charge of life, living a life?

No there is no Person incharge of life or living a life,as things are just happning, there is no doer.

Can you find anything or anyone that is apart from this experience and having the experience of this life?

There is no one or nothing is apart from this experience of life.

Does any doubt, irritation, fear arise when you look at this?

Most of the time no doubt irritation fear arise when I look at this experience.
Regards
Pawan

Hi Pawan,

Thanks for your response.

When you look at this experience what happens? It is hard to put in words but give it a try. How does it feel to look at this? If you were to describe it to a friend who was interested but did not know anything about it, what would you say to help them see?

Thanks!

Divya