Behind Kaiser

[poppyseed]

Hi Kaiser
It is really my pleasure guiding you! You are always welcome to reach out to me.
Do you think you are ready for the final questions?
Love
Rali

[poppyseed]

...you can also watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJQcD588g2w

[Kaiser]

Do you think you are ready for the final questions?

Sure Rali. I really enjoy this. Glad there’s more.

[poppyseed]

Hi Kaiser
Awesome! Here are the final questions. Please answer all questions in full, when you are ready.
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?
Love
Rali

[Kaiser]

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

There is absolutely no self, me or I entity that exists separately. It’s not possible.

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

The illusion of a separate self is thought content left unchecked or verified by actual experience. Thinking happens and provides a model for navigating actual experiences. Without verifying the validity of thought content, more thinking compounds similar content, in the style of a positive feedback loop. Sensations felt in actual experience are described by thoughts and seem to blend in an indisputable self. Sensations and thinking exacerbate each other, thinking takes a flavor of resistance and what is commonly referred to as suffering takes hold.
Whenever or whatever the contents of thinking are noticed, direct experience is always available to investigate the reality and accuracy.
A self, I or me is insubstantial content of thinking. Nothing more. It is fantasizing, dreaming. Not real.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

Occasionally seeing this can feel mysterious and curious. Sensations feel wider and quieter, like deep listening. Sometimes thought content stimulates a startle in felt experience yet felt sensations are settling in and relaxing. It’s fascinating and mildly exciting.
Before this dialogue I just hadn’t known how to look at direct experience. I thought about this experience and tried to do it by thinking or even meditating but never really understood how to look whilst setting thoughts to the side.
I used to try to figure all of this out. Now I’m looking and receive the direct answer that is there, always available. I am sensing for verification of thoughts and seeing what is there, not what’s assumed or thought. This has a strong calming effect on sensations which in turn calms thinking content.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

The direct pointing that there cannot be two experiences, paired with the observable fact that thoughts cannot do anything and the caution that a change in perception can be very very subtle opened it all up. I looked.

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Decision is content of thinking that creates a story about an unfolding in actual experience. It assumes a separate individual has a location, will and ability to make an effect on other separate things. In actuality reality is a continuous unfolding without separation that cannot be described yet can be easily seen.
Example: I decided to have iced tea.
Sensations described in thought content using labels I, thirst, iced tea, drinking spontaneously unfold without any doer doing anywhere.

to be continued…

[Kaiser]

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Intention is content of thought which interprets spontaneous events in a way that fictionally describes a separate doer possessing a will to enact change on additional separate things or separate events. It is the way thinking deals with additional fictions such as preference. Preference is an attraction which is interpreted by thoughts as having an owner that takes responsibility for the unfolding attraction. When bodily sensations signal that this understanding is inaccurate, thinking content usually includes frustration, blame, magical content to satisfy congruence needed to be accurate.
Intention is actually spontaneous movements of what arises in the present flow of this timeless moment.
An example is I choose to have an iced tea, where actually sensations unconditioned unfold into what looked like thirst resulting into sensations that looked like owing impulses and ending in drinking iced tea.
Intention is not there in direct experience.
Preference or its closer label attraction is a spontaneous resonance in this arising.

To be continued…

[Kaiser]

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Free will in actual direct experience is life unfolding as it is. Reality offers what is happening and makes no comment about anything. It’s an invitation to see. A will is not a personal will, it’s an unfolding. There isn’t a place for an individual to exist or express a will.

The population understanding of free will is a separate individual having a natural preference and having the ability to discern the accuracy and righteousness of a preference and can summon an action to evoke a change. It is actually playing God. But in reality there is no separate entity to have anything. It is actually content of thinking.

An example would be I want to do estimable actions and receive acclaim and admiration for a felt sense of feeling ok and belonging, I’d like to be good and be noticed. Yet, I never choose my thoughts, can’t accurately assess a situation nor force anyone to think thoughts towards me. Life happens, thoughts make comment and what happens takes place. In direct experience, sensations sense, thinking takes place and there is no real place or space for a separate individual can evoke anything.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Choice is a spontaneous unfolding and thinking making comments describing what unfolded and why. Choice is content of thought. It has no substance or accuracy in reality.
An example is when I go for a walk I choose to walk in the shade and choose to get a drink and choose that drink to be iced tea. In reality there is movement/activity, bright lights and stinging sensations in the skin, thirst sensation and a spontaneous attraction, a verbalization and a drinking, followed by commentary from thinking.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

Control is thought commenting on what unfolds in a way that proposes a doer maintaining a will and sustaining choice thru action. It is perhaps the easiest illusion to see. It does not exist in reality.
An example is I drive a car. Driving is happening by no one. If I had control and there’s a me, how did I breathe, grasp the steering wheel, see things, maintain the combustion of preserved solar energy in mined ore fashioned into a specific shape and avoid speeding objects operated by other individuals that do not control their thoughts, all while listening to preferred music? Control is an illusion.

[Kaiser]

What makes things happen? How does it work?

There is in reality no things that happen and it doesn’t work. It is just this/thus and thinking. It is life, alive. Yet that’s also not accurate. Happening is and how it works is the joy of thinking commentating.

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

To humor a very legitimate question that actually is an invitation for seeing reality,… at best, when thinking content tells a story of me, this fabricated me (that’s not there in reality) is not responsible for anything. If it could muster anything close to responsibility, it would actually only be accountability not responsibility.
This life unfolding will always be able to “say I’m sorry” and see unfolding unfold without any ownership.

6) Anything to add?

Yes.
I have discovered the most precious of abilities in this Liberation Unleashed with my friend Rali. I have come across inquiry. I am seeing there is no self. It doesn’t exist. AND I am using inquiry and trust it’s a new part of this life. However, currently I still look for this self with joyful and frustrated discovery.
I’d say seeking in this way continues. When a soft sense of self appears I bring these thoughts and feelings to direct experience and look. I also feel sensations arise and look at them directly, with thought content just to the side. Put another way, when I see someone dressed as Santa Clause I still pull down the beard in amazement. Sometime I’ll just walk by without belief. Until then, I’m a happy beard-puller.

[poppyseed]

Hi Kaiser
Welcome home!

Thank you for your beautiful answers! I really enjoyed reading them! It has been such a pleasure to walk beside you through the gateless gate! Your openness and willingness to look were simply awesome and made guiding you a joy.

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Please don’t forget that this is just the beginning of exploring. It’s the beginning of cleaning up of all sorts of old beliefs. Emotions and feelings can show up to be seen and felt, so don’t stop looking! Please feel free to contact me, so we can have a look together, if you like.

I also think that you would make a wonderful guide, if you’re willing to explore it, when you feel ready. If you are interested you can attend Vince's zoom meeting tomorrow (I'll PM you the details).
Love
Rali