Being selfless self

[warissem]

Hi Lisa

These are questions from a guide :

About your answer in question 2 :

"The story continues until the so called end when the body dies and the separate self believes it also dies with the body."

Q: What is the separate self?

Q: "without stories about the past, how is the self illusion taking shape right now?"


Warissem

[summerrain]

Thank you Warissem. I'll get back to you.
Lisa

[summerrain]

Hi Warissem,

Here are my answers to the questions.

About your answer in question 2 :

"The story continues until the so called end when the body dies and the separate self believes it also dies with the body."

Q: What is the separate self?

The separate self is the character that was created by the story told to it by the world (society, parents, other people etc) and which it believes it to be true.

Q: "without stories about the past, how is the self illusion taking shape right now?"

I am presuming that the self illusion in this question is not referring to the one that died in my answer in question 2 but to the self illusion in general.

I think it would be feasible to say that if there were no stories about the past, the self illusion would not exist unless a current story is being created in the now. So, if I am attached to the self-illusion even with no stories from the past, the world is constantly reflecting back to me that I am a separate self, so stories are being created all the time and I could easily continue to believe the illusion. Upon once seeing the self illusion, the illusion would no longer take shape.

Lisa

[warissem]

Hi Lisa

"Q: You say that stories are told to the separate self, and the separate self believes the story. So who is that separate self, is it Lisa? Is Lisa real? Did it die?

What is the separate self again?"

Give full answers and be as clear as possible.

Warissem

[summerrain]

Hi Warissem

So who is that separate self, is it Lisa? Is Lisa real? Did it die?

What is the separate self again?"

Give full answers and be as clear as possible.

The separate self is a construction and it was given the name Lisa and attached to a body. I don't really know how it works. Lisa didn't die but she isn't real as a separate entity or self. The life that is the energy or spark behind Lisa is real.

The separate self is the idea that I have a name and a body and I am a person in charge of making my life happen and i can think thoughts and feel feelings and I am orchestrating the elements of the experience of being a person. There is also the aspect of being attached to the person as an identity and that identity is all important in being a me and a human. That I own my thoughts and my feelings and I am responsible for them and I can make things happen by virtue of being a person and an identity as a person. The fallacy that underpins the separate self is that it has control and has an individual discrete existence as an identity in form.

Lisa

[warissem]

Hi Lisa

You are welcomed to LU groups in facebook to deepen the seeing.

Warissem

[summerrain]

Hi Warissem

Thank you so much for your guidance and for persevering with me. I really appreciate your companionship along the way and for working with me. I'm so glad I finally got through the gate.

I have received the invitation to Facebook and will join.

With best wishes,

Lisa