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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby Matthew » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:29 am

I'll be in touch!
First there is a mountain,
Then there is no mountain,
Then there is.

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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby Matthew » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:03 pm

Hi!

One guide asks:
Is there still confusion?
If so, what is it about?
First there is a mountain,
Then there is no mountain,
Then there is.

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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby SkyKim » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:01 pm

One guide asks:
Is there still confusion?
If so, what is it about?
There is no confusion.

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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby Matthew » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:24 am

One guide asks:



1) How is life lived after all the concepts dropped?


2) Is it 100% clear now that there is no separate "I"?
Would it still be 100% clear even if that was negated by some nondual "authorities"?
First there is a mountain,
Then there is no mountain,
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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby SkyKim » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:45 pm

1) How is life lived after all the concepts dropped?
No change from the surface. Only change is 'understanding' or 'perspective', which could be everything.
2) Is it 100% clear now that there is no separate "I"?
Yes. 'separate "I"' is illusion and not possible. It's clear.
Would it still be 100% clear even if that was negated by some nondual "authorities"?
Yes, 100% clear. And "authority" is illusion. There is no such a thing.

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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby Matthew » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:12 am

Two more interesting questions:


Only change is 'understanding' or 'perspective', which could be everything.
Would you please elaborate on this part?



And could you please describe something, that is not an illusion?
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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby SkyKim » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:39 pm

Only change is 'understanding' or 'perspective', which could be everything.
Would you please elaborate on this part?
There was "I" who was living daily life, understanding, seeking and needed to be awaken.
Now, it is clearly known that it's a illusion, which also can be called "understanding/perspective change".
The thought "which could be everything" occurred because all those concepts about "Truth", real or ,whatever it was, that "I" believed dropped.
It's also clear that 'understanding' or 'perspective' are just terms used and are another thought which comes and goes.
And could you please describe something, that is not an illusion?
There is no 'something', so illusion or 'not illusion' are just concept.

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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby Matthew » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:56 am

One guide would like to highlight these aspects:



1) How was it possible that “I” used to believe in concepts?


2) Could you please point to a smartphone and describe the thing, you are pointing to according to your understanding?


3) Could you please do the same thing pointing to "yourself"?
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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby SkyKim » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:22 pm

1) How was it possible that “I” used to believe in concepts?
It's only possible as a story. "I used to believe in concepts" is a story or thought occurring within this Experience like all other stories, so called 'memory'. There is NO separate entity "I" that can do anything. It's clear.
2) Could you please point to a smartphone and describe the thing, you are pointing to according to your understanding?
I point to this smartphone. The thing is a smartphone, which just lighted up for a moment to give notification. The thing feels hard and I can type and view the screen responding to the typing, and there are following thoughts regarding the text shown.
The thing along with all senses and thoughts exists within this Experience like everything, literally everything. There is NO 'separate/independent' 'entity/though/memory/emotion/whatever it is' outside this ever fresh Experience.
3) Could you please do the same thing pointing to "yourself"?
I points to "myself". "myself" exist within this ever fresh Experience along with everything. I stand in front of a big mirror. I see "myself". I touch my face and see the mirror reflecting "me" touching my face. This is also within this ever fresh Experience along with everything, literally everything including this typing experience by me.

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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby Bananafish » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:28 pm

Hi SkyKim! My name is Bananafish. I’m one of the guides here and would like to ask you a question, if you don’t mind. :)


I touch my face and see the mirror reflecting "me" touching my face.


What exactly is the “me” that the mirror is reflecting?

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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby SkyKim » Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:15 am

I’m one of the guides here and would like to ask you a question, if you don’t mind. :)
Of course NOT. Deeply appreciate your participation to this talk. _()_
I touch my face and see the mirror reflecting "me" touching my face.
What exactly is the “me” that the mirror is reflecting?
"me" is the character exists in this Experience. It's important term/label that is being used in this talk, but still label. The reflection of me is being experienced via, so called/labeled, sense vision, which is all part of Experience.
There is no separate entity such as "me". It's a character that exists inside this Experience like everything else. Experience is just another label pointing to what is here and now.

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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby Bananafish » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:00 am

Thanks!

Is the mirror reflecting a label?
Can a label be reflected?

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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby SkyKim » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:33 am

Is the mirror reflecting a label?
Can a label be reflected?
The term you use in this context "label" cannot be reflected because it's just a term. Mirror only reflects an object reflecting light.
Mirror reflects objects and I see the mirror reflecting my body. This whole thing is being experienced. The object "mirror" that I see and those "reflected objects" including my body are being experienced. Those exists only within this Experience. The reflected object in this Experience is labeled as "me". Label means a thought saying "it's me" which comes and goes.

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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby Bananafish » Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:08 am

I see the mirror reflecting my body.


Is "my body" also a label?
If so, how would you describe the "object" seen in the mirror?

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Re: Seeing Truth happening through Sky Kim

Postby SkyKim » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:43 pm

Is "my body" also a label?
If so, how would you describe the "object" seen in the mirror?
I won't say "my body" is a label. The thought occurring saying "it's my body" is a label. The object seen in the mirror is simply an object in the mirror being experienced. The object is not a separate entity that exists independently. The object exists within this Experience.

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