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Re: I am seeking an experienced nondual guide !

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:37 am
by forgetmenot
Hi Jay,
What the commentator was saying was much, much less important the second time. I wasn't paying attention so much to his words. His words sounded like that had very little meaning to me. I was watching it and didn't care about it for some reason.
It seemed like he was making a big deal over some guys running up and down the court and it didn't have a lot of meaning to me. But he was trying to make it have a lot of meaning for me. But is wasn't working this time.
The first time when sounds was on. I was interested in what he said. This time it was almost like I couldn't understand, or didn't want to hear his commentary. I could see what was going on I didnt' need him to tell me.

Is that like an analogy. LIke my thoughts trying to tell me what is. I guess I don't need all the mental chatter. I should just see my life as it is.
This exercise was to show you what thought does…it is the perpetual commentator and overlays actual experience with commentary.

If you look at that Youtube clip again…what is the actual experience? Without thought commentating…what actual experience is appearing?

Love, Kay
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Re: I am seeking an experienced nondual guide !

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:55 am
by jayjay2
If you look at that Youtube clip again…what is the actual experience? Without thought commentating…what actual experience is appearing?
with the sound off just seeing,

With sound on seehing and hearing.

Jay

Re: I am seeking an experienced nondual guide !

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:43 am
by forgetmenot
with the sound off just seeing,

With sound on seehing and hearing.
So there is AE of colour and AE of sound and thoughts ABOUT players, soccer and soccer field which is AE of thought.

Well both of the last two exercises were a lead up to the next...so LOOK carefully.

Here is a thought exercise. Sit quietly for about 30 minutes and notice the arising thoughts. Just let them appear as they appear. Try your best to COMPLETELY ignore what they are saying and just notice how they appear, without you doing anything at all.

- Did you do anything to make a particular thought or thoughts appear?
- Could you have done anything to make a different thought appear at that exact moment instead?
- Where are they coming from and going to?
- Can you predict your next thought?
- Can you push away any thought?
- Can you select from a range of thoughts to have only pleasant thoughts?
- Can you stop thinking a thought in the middle?
- Can you choose not to have painful or negative thoughts?
- Can you pick and choose any kind of thought?
- Is it possible to control any thoughts?
- Is it possible to prevent a thought from appearing? Including the thought 'I'?
- It seems that thought has some logical ordered appearance, but look carefully and just notice if there is an organised sequence? Or is that just another thought that says ‘these thoughts are in sequence’ or “they take content from previous thought”, or that ‘one thought follows another thought’?

Look carefully when doing this exercise and do it several times if necessary. Please answer each question individually.

Kay
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