The Gate

Wow, that was fast, I'm preparing my classes but few things I can say imediatlly:

you are spot on, my doubts come out of expectationes how it should be.

Fear just arrises, but the labeling and then unpleasentness is there. Obviouslly something is there thet don't like fear to happen and feels unconfortable.

Inner talk happens and when it's noticed...well I must be there, as it's labeled as not good...

Yes, pain is different, yesterday I got hit on my foot by someone, some blood and pain, but different, as if it is just happening, no special discomfort....

Seeing through the illusion of self doesn't mean automatically having non-dual awareness. Drop that expectation and just look honestly is there anything separate in your actual experience right now? Where is dividing line?

That one will keep me occupied, aldough I don't see separation when fast looking, but will try with what you call honesty....thank you so much....will come back as soon as possible and necessary....

Thank you

Fear just arises, but the labeling and then unpleasentness is there. Obviously something is there thet don't like fear to happen and feels uncomfortable.

You sure? :) What if it is all just an automatic response. Play of energies, triggering brain and body chemicals in response. What if mind can now see through this illusion?

Inner talk happens and when it's noticed...well I must be there, as it's labeled as not good...

Have a deeper look, without any other intention except to see what is really going on here. There is an automatic labeling coming from learned patterns. No one is doing this.

Never forget honesty; and simplicity.
If I would ask you if it is raining there, you would simply look through the window and told me. You wouldn't think or read about it.
Apply same here :)

Hello :)

Lot of fuss yesterday and today too, but I managed to check one thing and of course you were right, the absence,the unawareness, when running after some thought line in whatever direction happens, is just happening on it's own. It's not happening to a "me". Then it stoppes and then I can spin thoughts about lost of awarness....or just be...as that beeing is always.

Be well, I'll be back :)

Good morning :)

I would like you now answer few of those standard questions. Than we can continue from there if something needs to be more clear.

Till later,
many greetings!

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Is there a 'me', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

Is there separate experiencer of the experience? What is experience?

Explain in own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it works.

How does it feel to see this?

Good morning :)

Let's try to answer...

Is there a 'me', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

No, it's just a try to divide what is and install a looker who is monitoring life. That is not real, never was and never will be.

Is there separate experiencer of the experience? What is experience?

No, the same here...that division installs an expiriencer, he is not, just flow.
What is expirience....don't know, things are there, warm, cold, touch, talk, whatever.....come from don't know where....have to lable to make it an expirience, it has a past and future then...and that is not. Without expiriencer, there are not expiriences....
I am talking semantics now, but don't know how to put it else... there are just senses. To make it an expirience there has to be an expiriencer, without him it just is....something....

Explain in own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it works.

It is a primal division inside....an self is installed, or was installed somwhere down the road, probablly graduatlly some years after birth. That monitors what is and makes it a story of self...past is there, future is there, I is there. After some time if you tested many roads...money...sucess...sport....business...sex..., an last and ultimate road is glowing golden in the future..."The entlightement"...you drop else and begine the new...the ultimate pursuit....:)...the same pit again, just new form...not different than the rest. And whole the time the looker, the one who is inside is the problem....but it is so hard to see....I became so naturall that it's never questioned....you question the happenings, look for special insights, meditate and watch the void, eternal peace....hahaha...and the whole time the looker is the obstacle. You can not look at anything, the only important look is at the looker, but that is the deluding confrontation in term and fact...as long as you are looking the looker is there...catch 22. It must be seen, but it is not through looking, it is just recognised I don't know how.
How it workes...well as told...it labels, watches, superimpose, weight....do whatever is needed and not needed, mostly not needed...all not needed. It creates tension, unhappyness, inner monologue, sees world as enemies and sometimes allays, run in circles, to quote someone...like a dog run after it's own tail, but dogs have much more fun. It creates happynes too...but it is not real happyness, just caused one that is bound to end...again in misery...and so on...I could talk for houres about that stupid ways.

How does it feel to see this?

Lightness, will see how and in what way it will sink in.....it is very very fresh, i think the final touch came an hour ago. Sitting on a "beep" :) , it hit me...the stupid fool is watching everything, not to miss reality of now....and through this is missing it....wondering how he can not see and be aware of every moment and everything....and that is the division...right there...the I is sitting undesputed on the cloud of arogance and watching down on life...:)


Thank you Eloratea, thank you.....

Hi there :)
Thanks for the answers.

Is there maybe still something missing in this moment, any remaining doubt?

If not, what exactly was it that opened this "seeing without see-er"? Was there some special, most useful pointer?
:)

Much Love.

Hello :)

Is there maybe still something missing in this moment, any remaining doubt?

I don't think so, momentaliry there are no questiones...maybe a feeling like a child opening the door and comming into a unknown...full of happy anticipation of what is and will unfold. Like this is such a greap world and I'm so happy to be in it....will I be pretty, will I be rich...que sera ... sera....whatever will be, will be...:)

If not, what exactly was it that opened this "seeing without see-er"? Was there some special, most useful pointer?
:)

Well, a week ago it allready a kind of happened (I wrote about the three pointers from you that helped). But the I put up a final fight...the Question "Is it it..." Then I beagan to kind of hold it against learned belives, readed throuths...and thinking is it it...the more I thought, the further away I came. You helped in this days and I continue to think and go inside. Somehow I felt it was it, but clearity was more and more fogged through this checking...Is it it...
Then yesterday in the evening I read your questiones...I was to tired to answer, but also I saw that I can not answer all the questiones honestlly...and some of it was again felt more intelektually then real. I was almost unable to get the knowing, this feeling that I had a week ago, back...it was slipping. I decided to wait until morning when I'm fresh and then look and tell exactlly what is, either I see it or I'm deluding you and myself (not intentionally).

Then in the morning it was the same more or less...I allowed myself to do all the morning rituales, relax completelly as it is saturday, and then when I'm completely relaxed sit on the computer....after some of things I do...well I had to go to the bathroom, there are a lot of books there :). Normally mind has to do something, so I grabbed one and begine to read...the first sentence and it hit me...I saw the I clearlly sitting on it's trone....watching and judging...

That was it...last question melted away....:).

I came to the laptop and wrote to you. Maybe a trace of question, will it stay...will I again shadow it with questioning....but somehow the feeling is there, now it's final.

What to say...don't know...it's so nice. I will probablly have some wish to exchange words, how to go from now?

Thank you again, it's so normal, but also so unusual in this world, to get help without material exchange...thank you..

Good evening :)

I shared your answers with other guides and they might have some more questions for you. It is part of the so called confirmation procedure :)
If there will be no more questions I will send you pm with info about possible further contact with LU.

Till soon,
stay well.

Thank you.

I shared your answers with other guides and they might have some more questions for you. It is part of the so called confirmation procedure :)

I will be here for it. I came here for opening the eyes, and peopel who already see help also by confirmation. But confirmation as a form is not the esence, essence is seeing.

Thank you again a lot.

No more questions :)
And I have already sent you pm.
Thank you too for taking this journey and sharing it.